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From: Jack Johnson <knapjack@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] MS Research reinvents Inferno?
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:16:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e35c0620512132316t772a0656g5cab7c12bf1697a5@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6e35c0620512132230n2960d714q26b7f318c0b8066c@mail.gmail.com>

Another interesting tidbit:

"Language runtimes provide services—notably garbage collection—that
can interact poorly with programs. For example, a generational garbage
collector may introduce seconds-long pauses in program execution,
which would disrupt a media player or operating system. On the other
hand, a real-time collector suitable for the media player might
penalize a computational task."

Maybe I'm just sheltered, but I've never seen seconds-long pauses in a
GC'd system.  Not even a bad Java app.

"Homogeneous environments also evolve into large, complex, and
expensive systems since they must support the union of the
requirements of every application that depends on them."

This also seems a little biased. I think there are excellent examples
of simplicity run amok in various operating systems that help prevent
devolution into overt complexity, including the OS presented.  I think
GC in general gets a bad rap, and coming up with a systemwide GC
policy might have been a good thing.

But now I'm showing my bias....

-Jack

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-14  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-13  7:02 Skip Tavakkolian
2005-12-13  7:13 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2005-12-13  8:50 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-12-13 15:04   ` Kenneth Long
2005-12-13 12:26 ` Sergey Zhilkin
2005-12-13 16:26   ` LiteStar numnums
2005-12-13 16:30     ` Paul Lalonde
2005-12-13 16:39     ` Brantley Coile
2005-12-13 16:53       ` Charles Forsyth
2005-12-13 17:54       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-12-13 16:49     ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-12-13 16:57       ` Lucio De Re
2005-12-13 17:02         ` alexandr babic
2005-12-13 17:43           ` Russ Cox
2005-12-13 17:56             ` Charles Forsyth
2005-12-13 20:19               ` Oliver Bandel
2005-12-13 20:52                 ` David Leimbach
2005-12-14  2:12                   ` Oliver Bandel
2005-12-14  2:19                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-12-14 10:02                       ` Richard Miller
2005-12-14  4:01               ` Bruce Ellis
2005-12-13 17:56             ` Charles Forsyth
2005-12-13 18:07               ` alexandr babic
2005-12-14  0:02               ` Steve Simon
2005-12-14  9:42                 ` Richard Miller
2005-12-14 10:09                   ` C H Forsyth
2005-12-13 18:16             ` William Josephson
2005-12-13 20:46               ` David Leimbach
2005-12-13 21:05                 ` Brantley Coile
2005-12-14  2:05                   ` Oliver Bandel
2005-12-13 18:45             ` Brantley Coile
2005-12-13 18:50               ` Russ Cox
2005-12-13 18:55                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-12-13 19:02                   ` Russ Cox
2005-12-14  6:30                     ` Jack Johnson
2005-12-14  7:16                       ` Jack Johnson [this message]
2005-12-14 10:07                         ` Richard Miller
2005-12-13 20:49                   ` David Leimbach
2005-12-13 22:09                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-12-13 21:20                       ` LiteStar numnums
2005-12-13 21:54                       ` David Leimbach
2005-12-13 20:18             ` Oliver Bandel
2005-12-14  5:56             ` Jack Johnson
2005-12-14  6:02               ` Lucio De Re
2005-12-14  9:50                 ` Steve Simon
2005-12-14  6:05               ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-12-14  6:14                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-12-14  9:28                 ` Russ Cox
2005-12-14  7:29               ` Andriy G. Tereshchenko
2005-12-14 14:49               ` Brantley Coile
2005-12-14 10:11             ` Richard Miller
2005-12-14 11:00               ` Russ Cox
2005-12-14 12:47                 ` erik quanstrom
2005-12-14 15:06               ` Brantley Coile
2005-12-14 16:20                 ` C H Forsyth
2005-12-14 22:00                   ` David Leimbach
2005-12-13 17:14       ` David Leimbach
2005-12-13 18:13         ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-12-14  3:05           ` erik quanstrom
2005-12-13 17:43       ` Wes Kussmaul
2005-12-13 18:04       ` Bakul Shah
2005-12-13 18:15         ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-12-13 20:04     ` Oliver Bandel
2005-12-14  5:02     ` Jack Johnson
2005-12-14 12:26       ` LiteStar numnums
     [not found] ` <000401c5ffe3$22447ce0$14aaa8c0@utelsystems.local>
2005-12-13 13:01   ` "Nils O. Selåsdal"
2005-12-13 16:36     ` Charles Forsyth
2005-12-14 15:42 Brian L.Stuart
2005-12-14 16:20 ` Paweł Lasek
2005-12-14 19:14 Brian L.Stuart
2005-12-14 20:06 Brian L.Stuart

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