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* [9fans] The Third Button
@ 2014-07-21 13:08 dante
  2014-07-21 13:28 ` Robert Raschke
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From: dante @ 2014-07-21 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

Dear 9fans,

Is there any situation (i.e., GUI area) where both the 2nd *and* the
3rd mouse button are indispensable options?
Except for chording.

Would it be possible to create the option of merging these two buttons
for machines not blessed with the traditional rodent?

I ask this because 3-button-mice (*not* 2-button-and-wheel) are almost
impossible to find nowadays.
Moreover, many notebooks have good touchpads to be used in situations
when mice are impractical (on train, on the lap).
These interfaces present pretty nice solutions for button-1 and
button-3, but it's hard to impossible to do a button-2 click.

In Acme, for instance, you generally need button-3 in the text area and
button-2 in the menu area.
I'm not sure when button-2 in the text area and button-3 in the menu
area would be indispensable.
In Rio, you generally need button-3 when you click outside the focused
window and button-2 when you click inside the focused window.

Cheers,
Dante




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* Re: [9fans] The Third Button
  2014-07-21 13:08 [9fans] The Third Button dante
@ 2014-07-21 13:28 ` Robert Raschke
  2014-07-21 13:33 ` cam
  2014-07-21 15:35 ` Brian L. Stuart
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Robert Raschke @ 2014-07-21 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

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In acme, button-3 can cancel a button-2 execute. Say you button-2-sweep a
command, but then decide, err, no, don't want to do that, you chord-click
button-3 to cancel the execution. Not sure about other ways of doing this.


Robby


On 21 July 2014 14:08, dante <subscriptions@posteo.eu> wrote:

> Dear 9fans,
>
> Is there any situation (i.e., GUI area) where both the 2nd *and* the 3rd
> mouse button are indispensable options?
> Except for chording.
>
> Would it be possible to create the option of merging these two buttons for
> machines not blessed with the traditional rodent?
>
> I ask this because 3-button-mice (*not* 2-button-and-wheel) are almost
> impossible to find nowadays.
> Moreover, many notebooks have good touchpads to be used in situations when
> mice are impractical (on train, on the lap).
> These interfaces present pretty nice solutions for button-1 and button-3,
> but it's hard to impossible to do a button-2 click.
>
> In Acme, for instance, you generally need button-3 in the text area and
> button-2 in the menu area.
> I'm not sure when button-2 in the text area and button-3 in the menu area
> would be indispensable.
> In Rio, you generally need button-3 when you click outside the focused
> window and button-2 when you click inside the focused window.
>
> Cheers,
> Dante
>
>
>

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* Re: [9fans] The Third Button
  2014-07-21 13:08 [9fans] The Third Button dante
  2014-07-21 13:28 ` Robert Raschke
@ 2014-07-21 13:33 ` cam
  2014-07-21 13:55   ` cam
  2014-07-21 15:35 ` Brian L. Stuart
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: cam @ 2014-07-21 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

with drawterm on osx, button 2 click is option+click, button 3
is command+click.

in qemu, button 2 is shift+command+click and button 3 is
command+click.

on pc's with ps/2 two button mice, i believe shift+click is
button 2.

if you are using something different, try various combinations
of modifier keys and clicking.




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* Re: [9fans] The Third Button
  2014-07-21 13:33 ` cam
@ 2014-07-21 13:55   ` cam
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: cam @ 2014-07-21 13:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

i forgot to mention: alternately, kbmap(3) is supposed to
let you use function keys as mouse buttons.




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* Re: [9fans] The Third Button
  2014-07-21 13:08 [9fans] The Third Button dante
  2014-07-21 13:28 ` Robert Raschke
  2014-07-21 13:33 ` cam
@ 2014-07-21 15:35 ` Brian L. Stuart
  2014-07-29 12:33   ` Nicolas Bercher
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Brian L. Stuart @ 2014-07-21 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

> Would it be possible to create the option of merging these two buttons
> for machines not blessed with the traditional rodent?

If you hold down the right shift key while pressing the right
button, it interpretes that as a middle button press.  I'm not
completely certain, but I seem to remember it has to be the
right shift key and not the left.  The one machine where I
use that is a laptop and I've gotten into the habit of holding
the shift key with my pinky and hitting the right button below
the touchpad with my thumb.  Still not as nice as a real
middle button, but it serves in a pinch.

BLS




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* Re: [9fans] The Third Button
  2014-07-21 15:35 ` Brian L. Stuart
@ 2014-07-29 12:33   ` Nicolas Bercher
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Bercher @ 2014-07-29 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

On 21/07/2014 17:35, Brian L. Stuart wrote:
>> Would it be possible to create the option of merging these two buttons
>> for machines not blessed with the traditional rodent?
>
> If you hold down the right shift key while pressing the right
> button, it interpretes that as a middle button press.  I'm not
> completely certain, but I seem to remember it has to be the
> right shift key and not the left.  The one machine where I
> use that is a laptop and I've gotten into the habit of holding
> the shift key with my pinky and hitting the right button below
> the touchpad with my thumb.  Still not as nice as a real
> middle button, but it serves in a pinch.
>
> BLS

http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/1995/
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/1995/img/01.jpg

Nicolas



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