From: "Bruce Ellis" <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
To: weigelt@metux.de,
"Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:13:45 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <775b8d190803052013p62f802dah7812dd35c46b2b1e@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080306040441.GA18329@nibiru.local>
did you miss the 2^90? rather a lot really compared to lottery (~2^24).
brucee
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
> * geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com <geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > >From the fortune file:
> > You are roughly 2^90 times more likely to win a U.S. state lottery
> > *and* be struck by lightning simultaneously than you are to encounter
> > [an accidental SHA1 collision] in your file system. - J. Black
>
> Well, cracking the lottery jackpot happens quite often (if people
> would buy as many lotter tickets as we've got disitinct data
> blocks as we have in larger data storages or network traffic
> over several years, it would happen very regularily).
> Even the amount of lottery players in a smaller city with quite
> low incomes (so people can't afford playing regularily) is quite
> small (compared to the rest of the country). The chance of being
> resident in one specific of these small cities is also quite low.
> About one or two years ago, it happened that someone in my city
> cracked the jackpot.
> Now let's imagine, how many people of those who use to play lottery
> (in my family, there's exactly 1 - people who play lottery most
> likely have to believe there's a chance to win or simply don't
> know how to spend their money, also a quite small percentage of
> the population) don't want to have the price (for themselves) ?
> Exactly this happened here.
> And now take those people (winning, but don't want to have the price)
> and let's see who many of them even don't want to donate their win
> to certain projects (neither funding, science or social projects),
> especially in an region where social projects are *very* needed but
> are dramatically underfunded (eg. very bad financial situation of
> medical or social care facilities) and many people are even too
> poor for giving their childs appropriate food and clothes.
> Exactly this happened here: the winner really *refused* the win
> and so gave it away to the lottery company.
>
> I really can't say, how low the probabily for such events is,
> but I suspect, it's *extremly* low. Although I know really a lot
> of people, I cannot imagine a single one who might probably even
> think about such an decision.
>
> IMHO, such an event (winning && in my local city && refusing the win
> && the regional public and personal povery) is nearly impossible.
> BUT: it really happened !
>
> So we've seen again: statistics are *never* reliable. It only helps
> for vague decisions on very large masses, never for a single case.
>
>
> cu
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-05 4:00 Enrico Weigelt
2008-03-05 4:11 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-03-05 4:43 ` erik quanstrom
2008-03-05 5:09 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-03-05 5:52 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-03-05 6:24 ` geoff
2008-03-05 6:35 ` Taj Khattra
[not found] ` <7f575fa27b41329b9ae24f40e6e5a3cd@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2008-03-06 4:04 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-03-06 4:13 ` Bruce Ellis [this message]
2008-03-06 4:15 ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-03-06 4:31 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-03-06 6:16 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-03-06 18:50 ` ron minnich
2008-03-06 19:43 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-03-06 19:45 ` Paul Lalonde
2008-03-06 20:18 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-03-06 21:39 ` Paul Lalonde
2008-03-08 9:06 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-03-06 22:10 ` Martin Harriss
2008-03-06 6:40 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-03-06 14:35 ` erik quanstrom
2008-03-06 14:58 ` Tom Lieber
2008-03-06 15:09 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-03-06 17:09 ` Robert Raschke
2008-03-10 10:19 ` sqweek
2008-03-10 12:29 ` Gorka Guardiola
2008-03-10 13:20 ` erik quanstrom
2008-03-10 19:00 ` Wes Kussmaul
2008-03-10 19:27 ` erik quanstrom
2008-03-10 20:55 ` Bakul Shah
2008-03-11 2:04 ` Wes Kussmaul
2008-03-11 2:10 ` erik quanstrom
2008-03-11 6:03 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-03-10 16:18 ` Russ Cox
2008-03-10 18:06 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-03-10 18:31 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-03-10 18:40 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-03-10 18:46 ` Geoffrey Avila
2008-03-10 20:28 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-03-10 21:35 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-03-06 9:54 ` Wilhelm B. Kloke
2008-03-08 9:37 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-03-08 9:57 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-03-08 10:46 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-03-08 15:37 ` erik quanstrom
2008-03-06 4:40 ` cummij
2008-03-06 5:15 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-03-06 5:40 ` Uriel
2008-03-06 5:55 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-03-11 18:34 ` Uriel
2008-03-06 12:26 ` erik quanstrom
2008-03-05 5:04 ` geoff
2008-03-05 8:43 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-03-05 9:05 ` Gorka Guardiola
2008-03-05 14:33 ` Russ Cox
2008-03-06 12:39 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-03-06 16:58 ` Russ Cox
2008-03-06 18:16 ` andrey mirtchovski
[not found] ` <a553f487750f88281db1cce3378577c7@terzarima.net>
2008-03-06 5:38 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-03-06 9:44 ` Joel C. Salomon
2008-03-05 14:03 erik quanstrom
2008-03-05 16:00 ` Russ Cox
2008-03-06 19:09 Brian L. Stuart
2008-03-06 19:50 ` Charles Forsyth
2015-04-21 18:30 hruodr
2015-04-21 19:46 ` Russ Cox
2015-04-23 7:21 hruodr
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