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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?
Date: Sun,  4 Jan 2009 12:32:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79def6aa849a790de3969329762f0b23@quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090104061045.GJ8355@masters10.cs.jhu.edu>

> Constructing a namespace without RFNOMNT that does not have #s (say) bound
> is not really securing #s (and its other consumers) against that namespace's
> actions.  Constructing a namespace with RFNOMNT and without #s bound does
> at least two bad things:
>   -> it makes it impossible to pass fds around between processes in this
>      namespace, as there is now no /srv backing.
>   -> it prohibits import of additional resources.

i think you've got the cart before the horse.
i haven't even seen what i think is a compelling
argument for sendfd yet you're trying to argue
for second-order problems with a particular
application of sendfd.

i would think that in order to justify sendfd one would
need to
- have a reasonable implementation of sendfd and
- a useful application that needs it and can't be
implented correctly without it.
it would be more convincing with a paper
that considers other options and makes the
argument for sendfd.

with that in hand, it then would make sense
to talk about second-order problems.

- erik



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-04 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-23 18:01 Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-23 22:52 ` Rodolfo kix Garcia
2008-12-23 23:53   ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-12-24  1:10     ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-24  1:39       ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-24  3:00         ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-24  4:14           ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-24  7:36             ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-24 13:36               ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-27 20:27                 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-27 20:34                   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-12-27 20:21       ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-30  8:22         ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-30 15:04           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-12-30 15:31           ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-01 22:53             ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-01 23:57               ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2009-01-03 21:23                 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-03 21:41                   ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-03 21:59                     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-03 23:57                   ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2009-01-04  5:19                     ` lucio
2009-01-04  5:48                       ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-04  6:10                         ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2009-01-04  6:43                           ` lucio
2009-01-05  1:12                             ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-05  1:32                               ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-05  3:48                                 ` lucio
2009-01-04 17:32                           ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2009-01-04 18:23                             ` lucio
2009-01-05  1:24                               ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-04  5:58                       ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2009-01-04  6:26                         ` lucio
2009-01-04 15:46                           ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-05  4:30                     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-24  1:17   ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-27 17:06 ` Russ Cox

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