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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?
Date: Sat,  3 Jan 2009 16:41:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b30c5305b8b12c388c0a189307b6fff0@quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1231017782.11463.193.camel@goose.sun.com>

>    1. Virtualizing root account, so that every Zone can have its own
>    2. Virtualizing the global UNIX namespace
>    3. Virtualizing TCP/IP stack
>    4. Virtualizing drivers providing access to the service provided
>       by the kernel itself (things like /proc, etc.)
>    5. Implementing per-Zone quotas on CPU, Memory and I/O consumption
>
> Now, under Plan9, #1-3 come for free. I'm not sure how #5 is possible
> (anybody?). And thus #4 is the only are that needs work. That work,

there isn't a root account, but there is still only one eve.
also, there can only be one ip stack per physical interface.
(this could be fixed by changing two or three lines of code.)
there's also nothing preventing one from implementing a
filtering fs that restricts the directories available in /proc.

i'm not quite sure what the point is.  if the problem really
is security, then i would the security problems should be fixed.

> a channel (either existing or a new one). From the point it connects
> *and* passes the auth process, you are constrained by the security
> model of 9P. Users and user groups are the only thing that is there.

note that in plan 9, groups only exist on the file server.
the auth server doesn't know anything about them

- erik




  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-03 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-23 18:01 Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-23 22:52 ` Rodolfo kix Garcia
2008-12-23 23:53   ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-12-24  1:10     ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-24  1:39       ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-24  3:00         ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-24  4:14           ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-24  7:36             ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-24 13:36               ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-27 20:27                 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-27 20:34                   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-12-27 20:21       ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-30  8:22         ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-30 15:04           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-12-30 15:31           ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-01 22:53             ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-01 23:57               ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2009-01-03 21:23                 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-03 21:41                   ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2009-01-03 21:59                     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-03 23:57                   ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2009-01-04  5:19                     ` lucio
2009-01-04  5:48                       ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-04  6:10                         ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2009-01-04  6:43                           ` lucio
2009-01-05  1:12                             ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-05  1:32                               ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-05  3:48                                 ` lucio
2009-01-04 17:32                           ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-04 18:23                             ` lucio
2009-01-05  1:24                               ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-04  5:58                       ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2009-01-04  6:26                         ` lucio
2009-01-04 15:46                           ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-05  4:30                     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-24  1:17   ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-27 17:06 ` Russ Cox

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