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From: rsc@swtch.com
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] ls, rc question
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 22:41:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <96e06cebf14ac0ed02a5390ac3dd1dbf@swtch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200403182300.i2IN0p5T095713@adat.davidashen.net>

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if you want, you can think of this as a bug in read(2):
if a file is covered up, it should be completely hidden.
it turns out that actually implementing this is quite hard,
that it doesn't really break much (you've found about
all of it!) to leave it as is, and that it results in things
like /bin/ls giving interesting information about the union.

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From: David Tolpin <dvd@davidashen.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] ls, rc question
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 03:00:51 +0400 (AMT)
Message-ID: <200403182300.i2IN0p5T095713@adat.davidashen.net>


I am not asking why there are two file names in the directory listing. I understand it.

I think that behaviours of rc and ls are confusing. I would either expect rc's globbing
to only match one path name, or ls to display all files.

man rc says 'A pattern is replaced by a list of arguments, one
for each path name matched'. Not for each directory entry. For
each path name. There is one path name /dev/user for two files.

cpu% ls -q /dev|grep user
(0000000000000015 0 00) /dev/user
(000000000000000c 0 00) /dev/user

Globbing expands this to two elements:

cpu% echo /dev/user*
/dev/user /dev/user

I think this is not what the manual says. 

Then,

cpu% ls -q /dev/user*
(0000000000000015 0 00) /dev/user
(0000000000000015 0 00) /dev/user

I understand why it is so. But I think that consistency is sacrificed
for simplicity. Either rc should do what the manual says and return
one match for /dev/user* (so that /dev/user* and /dev/user is the same
thing), or ls -q /dev/user should recursively list all directory
entries matching the path name.

David Tolpin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-03-19  3:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-18 21:40 [9fans] ls question David Tolpin
2004-03-18 21:58 ` Russ Cox
2004-03-18 22:05   ` Russ Cox
2004-03-18 23:00     ` [9fans] ls, rc question David Tolpin
2004-03-18 23:31       ` [9fans] dirread David Tolpin
2004-03-18 23:49         ` ron minnich
2004-03-19  0:14         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19  3:38         ` rsc
2004-03-19  3:41       ` rsc [this message]
2004-03-19  5:32         ` [9fans] ls, rc question David Tolpin
2004-03-19  5:45           ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19  5:50           ` ron minnich
2004-03-19  6:45             ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19  9:07             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19  9:24               ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19  9:33                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19  9:39                   ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19  9:46                     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-19 10:11                   ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19 10:42                     ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19 10:03                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19  9:38               ` [9fans] Bind, look, everything is duplicated David Tolpin
2004-03-19  7:01           ` [9fans] ls, rc question Micah Stetson
2004-03-19  7:57             ` [9fans] ls, rc question -- proposed change to rc/glob.c David Tolpin
2004-03-19  8:13               ` Rob Pike
2004-03-19  8:18                 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19  8:24                   ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19  8:27                   ` Rob Pike
2004-03-19  8:52                     ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19  9:16                     ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19  9:29                       ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19  9:41                       ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-19 10:09                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19 10:50                         ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-19 11:12                           ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19 12:31                             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19 12:53                               ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19 13:59                             ` David Presotto
2004-03-19 14:44                               ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19 17:57                                 ` Russ Cox
2004-03-19 18:04                                   ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19 20:31                               ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-22 22:56                           ` rog
2004-03-22 23:19                             ` Scott Schwartz
2004-03-22 23:50                             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-23  0:28                               ` rog
2004-03-23  0:40                                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-23  0:49                             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-23  2:12                               ` ron minnich
2004-03-23  2:16                                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-23  3:15                                 ` rog
2004-03-23 11:13                             ` a
2004-03-23 11:47                               ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-19  8:31                 ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19  8:47                   ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-19  9:07                   ` Rob Pike
2004-03-19  9:34                     ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19  9:52                     ` Scott Schwartz
2004-03-19 14:42                       ` ron minnich
2004-03-19 16:18                         ` 9nut
2004-03-19 15:34                           ` david presotto
2004-03-19 15:43                             ` ron minnich
2004-03-19 16:00                               ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19 16:02                             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19 16:23                               ` David Presotto
2004-03-19 16:34                             ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19 16:47                               ` a
2004-03-19 16:52                                 ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19 17:15                               ` David Presotto
2004-03-21 20:47                               ` rog
2004-03-21 20:50                                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-21 21:53                                 ` ron minnich
2004-03-21 22:05                                   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-21 23:29                                   ` Enache Adrian
2004-03-22  1:30                                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-22 10:09                                 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2004-03-22 10:49                                   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-22 12:15                                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-22 18:23                                       ` Derek Fawcus
2004-03-23  0:06                                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19 16:34                             ` a
2004-03-19 15:53                           ` lucio
2004-03-19 16:01                             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19 16:08                             ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-03-19 16:12                               ` ron minnich
2004-03-19 16:22                               ` lucio
2004-03-19 19:42                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19 14:13                     ` Russ Cox
2004-03-19 14:37                       ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19  8:35                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19 14:19                 ` Russ Cox
2004-03-18 21:59 ` [9fans] ls question David Presotto
2004-03-18 22:05 ` matt
2004-03-18 22:04   ` David Tolpin
2004-03-18 22:08   ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19 10:26 [9fans] ls, rc question Tiit Lankots

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