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From: rog@vitanuova.com
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] ls, rc question -- proposed change to rc/glob.c
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 03:15:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <df4fe5257706a088b69fa0d4cbdea7ca@vitanuova.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0403221911340.1885-100000@maxroach.lanl.gov>

> > come to think of it, if i expect {rm -r a} to empty (and delete) `a'
> > might i not expect {rm a/*} and especially {rm -r a/*}
> > to remove all removable names from `a'?
> 
> seems right. There's a lot of subtleties to the union thing. I think that 
> Plan 9's decision (present it to the users in its entirety) is the right 
> one.

it's a trade-off.  some things work better, some things work worse.

having said that, the above is the only occasion i've seen that makes
use of the duplicate names in any kind of a sensible manner (but
remove (and rename) is a strange operation in a union directory anyway
- remove("x") does not necessarily mean that "x" goes away).  i
excluded write operations originally, and marked the rm behaviour as
"questionable" because i believe it can be argued both ways.  union
directories themselves cannot be removed, so one's on fairly shaky
ground trying to rm -r them...

most tools read a directory in order to enumerate its accessible
items.  in that context, seeing unique names only is more correct.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-03-23  3:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-18 21:40 [9fans] ls question David Tolpin
2004-03-18 21:58 ` Russ Cox
2004-03-18 22:05   ` Russ Cox
2004-03-18 23:00     ` [9fans] ls, rc question David Tolpin
2004-03-18 23:31       ` [9fans] dirread David Tolpin
2004-03-18 23:49         ` ron minnich
2004-03-19  0:14         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19  3:38         ` rsc
2004-03-19  3:41       ` [9fans] ls, rc question rsc
2004-03-19  5:32         ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19  5:45           ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19  5:50           ` ron minnich
2004-03-19  6:45             ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19  9:07             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19  9:24               ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19  9:33                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19  9:39                   ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19  9:46                     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-19 10:11                   ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19 10:42                     ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19 10:03                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19  9:38               ` [9fans] Bind, look, everything is duplicated David Tolpin
2004-03-19  7:01           ` [9fans] ls, rc question Micah Stetson
2004-03-19  7:57             ` [9fans] ls, rc question -- proposed change to rc/glob.c David Tolpin
2004-03-19  8:13               ` Rob Pike
2004-03-19  8:18                 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19  8:24                   ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19  8:27                   ` Rob Pike
2004-03-19  8:52                     ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19  9:16                     ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19  9:29                       ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19  9:41                       ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-19 10:09                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19 10:50                         ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-19 11:12                           ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19 12:31                             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19 12:53                               ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19 13:59                             ` David Presotto
2004-03-19 14:44                               ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19 17:57                                 ` Russ Cox
2004-03-19 18:04                                   ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19 20:31                               ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-22 22:56                           ` rog
2004-03-22 23:19                             ` Scott Schwartz
2004-03-22 23:50                             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-23  0:28                               ` rog
2004-03-23  0:40                                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-23  0:49                             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-23  2:12                               ` ron minnich
2004-03-23  2:16                                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-23  3:15                                 ` rog [this message]
2004-03-23 11:13                             ` a
2004-03-23 11:47                               ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-19  8:31                 ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19  8:47                   ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-19  9:07                   ` Rob Pike
2004-03-19  9:34                     ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19  9:52                     ` Scott Schwartz
2004-03-19 14:42                       ` ron minnich
2004-03-19 16:18                         ` 9nut
2004-03-19 15:34                           ` david presotto
2004-03-19 15:43                             ` ron minnich
2004-03-19 16:00                               ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19 16:02                             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19 16:23                               ` David Presotto
2004-03-19 16:34                             ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19 16:47                               ` a
2004-03-19 16:52                                 ` Richard Miller
2004-03-19 17:15                               ` David Presotto
2004-03-21 20:47                               ` rog
2004-03-21 20:50                                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-21 21:53                                 ` ron minnich
2004-03-21 22:05                                   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-21 23:29                                   ` Enache Adrian
2004-03-22  1:30                                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-22 10:09                                 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2004-03-22 10:49                                   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-22 12:15                                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-22 18:23                                       ` Derek Fawcus
2004-03-23  0:06                                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19 16:34                             ` a
2004-03-19 15:53                           ` lucio
2004-03-19 16:01                             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-19 16:08                             ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-03-19 16:12                               ` ron minnich
2004-03-19 16:22                               ` lucio
2004-03-19 19:42                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19 14:13                     ` Russ Cox
2004-03-19 14:37                       ` David Tolpin
2004-03-19  8:35                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19 14:19                 ` Russ Cox
2004-03-18 21:59 ` [9fans] ls question David Presotto
2004-03-18 22:05 ` matt
2004-03-18 22:04   ` David Tolpin
2004-03-18 22:08   ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-19 15:59 [9fans] ls, rc question -- proposed change to rc/glob.c Tiit Lankots

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