* [9fans] Fujitsu D3401 @ 2019-02-15 11:57 Kare Nuorteva 2019-02-16 3:28 ` Sean Hinchee 2019-02-16 10:11 ` Skip Tavakkolian 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Kare Nuorteva @ 2019-02-15 11:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Hello 9fans, I'm a Plan 9 enthusiast from Finland. I've been playing around with Plan 9 as a hobby for few years now. Earlier I've played with 9front, but now I'd like to try out Bell Labs distro. I'm thinking about renting a server from Hetzner (they've got a data center in Helsinki) and run 9legacy on it. I'd set it up as a file server in order to store my files in it. I wondering if this entry level server is compatible with 9legacy? https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex42-nvme/configurator I've contacted Hetzner support and they told me that the mainboard is Fujitsu D3401. I can't find exact specifications for this board. I've only found this: https://sp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/Publications/public/DS-D3401-B.pdf but I'm not certain whether this is correct or not. It is marked as classic desktop mainboard. I would appreciate your help. I've not decided whether I'll go with Hetzner so suggestions about hosting providers are more than welcome. Kare ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401 2019-02-15 11:57 [9fans] Fujitsu D3401 Kare Nuorteva @ 2019-02-16 3:28 ` Sean Hinchee 2019-02-16 8:52 ` Steve Simon 2019-02-16 10:11 ` Skip Tavakkolian 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Sean Hinchee @ 2019-02-16 3:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs, Kare Nuorteva It's hard to say whether a board will work without testing. You could try searching the 9front sysinfo lists, but it's possible this board has never been used. If it does work, I'm sure the 9front project would enjoy a copy of the sysinfo for it :) I've done all my Plan 9 hosting through Vultr, but looking at their locations the farthest north they offer in Europe is Amsterdam. Good luck! Cheers, Sean On 2/15/19 5:57 AM, Kare Nuorteva wrote: > Hello 9fans, > > I'm a Plan 9 enthusiast from Finland. I've been playing around with Plan 9 as > a hobby for few years now. Earlier I've played with 9front, but now I'd like to > try out Bell Labs distro. > > I'm thinking about renting a server from Hetzner (they've got a data center in > Helsinki) and run 9legacy on it. I'd set it up as a file server in order > to store my files in it. > > I wondering if this entry level server is compatible with 9legacy? > https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex42-nvme/configurator > I've contacted Hetzner support and they told me that the mainboard is Fujitsu > D3401. I can't find exact specifications for this board. I've only found this: > https://sp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/Publications/public/DS-D3401-B.pdf > but I'm not certain whether this is correct or not. It is marked as > classic desktop mainboard. > > I would appreciate your help. > > I've not decided whether I'll go with Hetzner so suggestions about hosting > providers are more than welcome. > > Kare > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401 2019-02-16 3:28 ` Sean Hinchee @ 2019-02-16 8:52 ` Steve Simon 2019-02-16 9:31 ` hiro 2019-02-16 9:35 ` Lucio De Re 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Steve Simon @ 2019-02-16 8:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs plan9 has run under xen, kqmu and vmware in the past but i dont know its current status, but that might be an option. i run the labs distro with some bits of 9front on a raspberry pi and a supermicro mini itx server. -Steve > On 16 Feb 2019, at 3:28 am, Sean Hinchee <henesy.nein@gmail.com> wrote: > > It's hard to say whether a board will work without testing. You could try searching the 9front sysinfo lists, but it's possible this board has never been used. If it does work, I'm sure the 9front project would enjoy a copy of the sysinfo for it :) > > I've done all my Plan 9 hosting through Vultr, but looking at their locations the farthest north they offer in Europe is Amsterdam. > > Good luck! > > Cheers, > Sean > >> On 2/15/19 5:57 AM, Kare Nuorteva wrote: >> Hello 9fans, >> >> I'm a Plan 9 enthusiast from Finland. I've been playing around with Plan 9 as >> a hobby for few years now. Earlier I've played with 9front, but now I'd like to >> try out Bell Labs distro. >> >> I'm thinking about renting a server from Hetzner (they've got a data center in >> Helsinki) and run 9legacy on it. I'd set it up as a file server in order >> to store my files in it. >> >> I wondering if this entry level server is compatible with 9legacy? >> https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex42-nvme/configurator >> I've contacted Hetzner support and they told me that the mainboard is Fujitsu >> D3401. I can't find exact specifications for this board. I've only found this: >> https://sp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/Publications/public/DS-D3401-B.pdf >> but I'm not certain whether this is correct or not. It is marked as >> classic desktop mainboard. >> >> I would appreciate your help. >> >> I've not decided whether I'll go with Hetzner so suggestions about hosting >> providers are more than welcome. >> >> Kare >> >> >> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401 2019-02-16 8:52 ` Steve Simon @ 2019-02-16 9:31 ` hiro 2019-02-16 9:35 ` Lucio De Re 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: hiro @ 2019-02-16 9:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs regardless of the hardware, before deciding on a host check a traceroute to some test-ip they should provide, to make sure it doesn't actually first go to germany and back or some other sillyness! i just picked the cheapest server i could find, but limited my search parameters to those that do direct peering with my ISP, and their network having been statistically stable. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401 2019-02-16 8:52 ` Steve Simon 2019-02-16 9:31 ` hiro @ 2019-02-16 9:35 ` Lucio De Re 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Lucio De Re @ 2019-02-16 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs I've never failed to get Plan 9 running under VMware ESX (v 3.51). It takes remembering what adjustments I made the last time, or rediscovering them. I will be converting the ESX images to kqemu in the near future, see how that pans out. Lucio. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401 2019-02-15 11:57 [9fans] Fujitsu D3401 Kare Nuorteva 2019-02-16 3:28 ` Sean Hinchee @ 2019-02-16 10:11 ` Skip Tavakkolian 2019-02-16 10:18 ` Skip Tavakkolian 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Skip Tavakkolian @ 2019-02-16 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1222 bytes --] GCP would be an option. 9legacy has instructions and a ready image. On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 3:59 AM Kare Nuorteva <kare.nuorteva@me.com> wrote: > > Hello 9fans, > > I'm a Plan 9 enthusiast from Finland. I've been playing around with Plan 9 > as > a hobby for few years now. Earlier I've played with 9front, but now I'd > like to > try out Bell Labs distro. > > I'm thinking about renting a server from Hetzner (they've got a data > center in > Helsinki) and run 9legacy on it. I'd set it up as a file server in order > to store my files in it. > > I wondering if this entry level server is compatible with 9legacy? > https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex42-nvme/configurator > I've contacted Hetzner support and they told me that the mainboard is > Fujitsu > D3401. I can't find exact specifications for this board. I've only found > this: > https://sp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/Publications/public/DS-D3401-B.pdf > but I'm not certain whether this is correct or not. It is marked as > classic desktop mainboard. > > I would appreciate your help. > > I've not decided whether I'll go with Hetzner so suggestions about hosting > providers are more than welcome. > > Kare > > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1827 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401 2019-02-16 10:11 ` Skip Tavakkolian @ 2019-02-16 10:18 ` Skip Tavakkolian 2019-02-16 14:31 ` Lucio De Re 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Skip Tavakkolian @ 2019-02-16 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1553 bytes --] for completeness, AWS is also an option. there's is an old image that Richard Miller created some time ago. Erik mentioned he hoped (was planning?) to create an image with up-to-date drivers. On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 2:11 AM Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> wrote: > GCP would be an option. 9legacy has instructions and a ready image. > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 3:59 AM Kare Nuorteva <kare.nuorteva@me.com> > wrote: > >> >> Hello 9fans, >> >> I'm a Plan 9 enthusiast from Finland. I've been playing around with Plan >> 9 as >> a hobby for few years now. Earlier I've played with 9front, but now I'd >> like to >> try out Bell Labs distro. >> >> I'm thinking about renting a server from Hetzner (they've got a data >> center in >> Helsinki) and run 9legacy on it. I'd set it up as a file server in order >> to store my files in it. >> >> I wondering if this entry level server is compatible with 9legacy? >> https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex42-nvme/configurator >> I've contacted Hetzner support and they told me that the mainboard is >> Fujitsu >> D3401. I can't find exact specifications for this board. I've only found >> this: >> https://sp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/Publications/public/DS-D3401-B.pdf >> but I'm not certain whether this is correct or not. It is marked as >> classic desktop mainboard. >> >> I would appreciate your help. >> >> I've not decided whether I'll go with Hetzner so suggestions about hosting >> providers are more than welcome. >> >> Kare >> >> >> >> [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2427 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401 2019-02-16 10:18 ` Skip Tavakkolian @ 2019-02-16 14:31 ` Lucio De Re 2019-02-16 15:41 ` hiro 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Lucio De Re @ 2019-02-16 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On 2/16/19, Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> wrote: > for completeness, AWS is also an option. there's is an old image that > Richard Miller created some time ago. Erik mentioned he hoped (was > planning?) to create an image with up-to-date drivers. > Now, Erik's track record is pretty much faultless, so I'd love to see an image reflecting recent developments, if any (I really ought to be the one driving this, I have good reason to apply some effort in this direction). But I am curious to hear what improvements drivers there may be for an AWS image. When I started writing this, I assumed these would be additional drivers, which didn't seem logical. Updated drivers, on the other hand, would be very welcome, specially from someone close to the coalface. And on that note, I'd like to start a catalogue of drivers for Plan 9 with sufficient documentation to ensure that they are or can be made portable or compatible across what I hesitate to call distros. If there is a shortcut to identifying the incompatibilities between various kernel versions, no one is more qualified than cinap, quanstro and forsyth to catalogue them. Is it worth it and if so, where should I start? Lucio. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401 2019-02-16 14:31 ` Lucio De Re @ 2019-02-16 15:41 ` hiro 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: hiro @ 2019-02-16 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs if you don't know if it's worth it why do you want to do it? try to do something that benefits you personally, so that there can be a more clear goal ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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