From: Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com>
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive?
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2019 19:49:14 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJSxfmL7RtygK6ArSJX2cqRAPHT9rsArnaH6au3Q2D2PNPkSzg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83054678AC38490907D956243528B1D4@ewsd.inri.net>
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Not dead; more like Schrödinger's OS.
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 3:16 PM <sl@9front.org> wrote:
> most of these answers don't really answer the question everyone knows
> op is asking. why do we always play these games?
>
> the answer is: no, vanilla plan 9 is not still alive.
>
> background:
>
> plan 9's creators all left bell labs many years ago, and none of them
> use plan 9 anymore[0]. bell labs itself has changed hands a couple of
> times since development of plan 9 came to its ignoble end. yes, some
> third parties occasionally tinker. richard miller puts out code that
> can be run on raspberry pi hardware. some other former heavy users
> occasionally push piecemeal bits of personal projects into the public
> eye. nobody takes any of it seriously because none of them really use
> plan 9 to do anything people use computers to do[1]. which is not to
> say their efforts aren't appreciated. thanks, guys.
>
> for some reason, when interested newbs show up on this mailing list
> asking this same question, which happens from time to time, they're
> always made to believe there exists a thriving community of devoted
> plan 9 from bell labs users eager to point them towards resources
> useful for running plan 9 on a computer manufactured after sbc
> rebranded itself as at&t.
>
> 9front was created in 2011 because by then it had already been
> apparent for several years that this was a baldfaced lie.
>
> failing a massive leak of all the code 9fans will swear to you they
> are running on their modern computers, your choices include:
>
> - 9front (new drivers, modern cryptography, useful new programs)
> - 9legacy (an attempt to combine patches from all extant personally
> maintained copies of the plan 9 source tree)
>
> don't thank me until you've tried to get straight answers to follow-up
> questions.
>
> sl
>
> [0] http://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html#0.2.3
>
> [1] i'm typing this on a thinkpad x250, over intel wifi/wpa2, running
> 1920x1080 on the native lcd. it's running plan 9, but is sure ain't
> vanilla[2].
>
> [2] oh yeah, all the code is available here:
> http://code.9front.org/hg/plan9front
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-23 3:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-22 23:15 sl
2019-11-22 23:36 ` greemngreek
2019-11-23 3:49 ` Skip Tavakkolian [this message]
2019-11-23 9:29 ` Richard Miller
2019-11-23 14:24 ` Steven Stallion
2019-11-23 14:33 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2019-11-23 14:57 ` Lucio De Re
2019-11-23 17:15 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2019-11-23 18:14 ` Federico Benavento
2019-11-23 18:24 ` hiro
2019-11-23 20:17 ` Kurt H Maier
2019-11-23 20:27 ` Kurt H Maier
2019-11-23 22:35 ` Steven Stallion
2019-11-23 22:43 ` hiro
2019-11-23 22:44 ` hiro
2019-11-24 2:03 ` Kurt H Maier
2019-11-24 6:34 ` Lucio De Re
2019-11-24 7:54 ` Kurt H Maier
2019-11-24 20:32 ` Ori Bernstein
2019-11-25 3:32 ` Lucio De Re
2019-11-25 4:01 ` Lucio De Re
2019-11-25 7:52 ` Richard Miller
2019-11-23 23:08 ` Ori Bernstein
2019-11-23 23:46 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2019-11-24 8:53 ` Richard Miller
2019-11-24 12:41 ` hiro
2019-11-23 18:11 ` hiro
2019-11-24 6:50 ` Lucio De Re
2019-11-23 19:00 ` Kurt H Maier
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-12-09 5:27 kokamoto
2019-12-09 4:05 kokamoto
2019-12-09 4:00 kokamoto
2019-12-09 4:34 ` ori
2019-12-09 8:06 ` Richard Miller
2019-11-27 10:04 kokamoto
2019-11-27 9:44 kokamoto
2019-11-26 23:02 kokamoto
2019-11-27 8:09 ` Richard Miller
2019-11-26 9:46 kokamoto
2019-11-26 14:49 ` Richard Miller
2019-11-24 17:32 ori
2019-11-24 23:40 ` Fazlul Shahriar
2019-11-25 8:47 ` David du Colombier
2019-11-25 23:41 ` Steven Stallion
2019-11-26 7:04 ` David du Colombier
2019-11-24 16:30 ori
2019-11-24 17:07 ` David du Colombier
2019-11-24 18:37 ` David Butler
2019-11-24 17:34 ` David L. Craig
2019-11-25 8:39 ` Richard Miller
2019-11-22 6:29 greemngreek
2019-11-22 6:44 ` [9fans] " Nick Owens
2019-11-22 7:42 ` Fazlul Shahriar
2019-11-22 8:00 ` greemngreek
2019-11-22 8:24 ` Richard Miller
2019-11-22 8:53 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2019-11-22 14:55 ` Don A. Bailey
2019-11-22 15:12 ` Jens Staal
2019-11-22 15:30 ` Steven Stallion
2019-11-24 4:40 ` Bakul Shah
2019-11-24 5:25 ` greemngreek
2019-11-24 6:13 ` Bakul Shah
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