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From: Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com>
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive?
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2019 19:49:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJSxfmL7RtygK6ArSJX2cqRAPHT9rsArnaH6au3Q2D2PNPkSzg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83054678AC38490907D956243528B1D4@ewsd.inri.net>

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Not dead; more like Schrödinger's OS.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 3:16 PM <sl@9front.org> wrote:

> most of these answers don't really answer the question everyone knows
> op is asking.  why do we always play these games?
>
> the answer is: no, vanilla plan 9 is not still alive.
>
> background:
>
> plan 9's creators all left bell labs many years ago, and none of them
> use plan 9 anymore[0].  bell labs itself has changed hands a couple of
> times since development of plan 9 came to its ignoble end.  yes, some
> third parties occasionally tinker.  richard miller puts out code that
> can be run on raspberry pi hardware.  some other former heavy users
> occasionally push piecemeal bits of personal projects into the public
> eye.  nobody takes any of it seriously because none of them really use
> plan 9 to do anything people use computers to do[1].  which is not to
> say their efforts aren't appreciated.  thanks, guys.
>
> for some reason, when interested newbs show up on this mailing list
> asking this same question, which happens from time to time, they're
> always made to believe there exists a thriving community of devoted
> plan 9 from bell labs users eager to point them towards resources
> useful for running plan 9 on a computer manufactured after sbc
> rebranded itself as at&t.
>
> 9front was created in 2011 because by then it had already been
> apparent for several years that this was a baldfaced lie.
>
> failing a massive leak of all the code 9fans will swear to you they
> are running on their modern computers, your choices include:
>
> - 9front (new drivers, modern cryptography, useful new programs)
> - 9legacy (an attempt to combine patches from all extant personally
>         maintained copies of the plan 9 source tree)
>
> don't thank me until you've tried to get straight answers to follow-up
> questions.
>
> sl
>
> [0] http://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html#0.2.3
>
> [1] i'm typing this on a thinkpad x250, over intel wifi/wpa2, running
> 1920x1080 on the native lcd.  it's running plan 9, but is sure ain't
> vanilla[2].
>
> [2] oh yeah, all the code is available here:
> http://code.9front.org/hg/plan9front
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-23  3:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-22 23:15 sl
2019-11-22 23:36 ` greemngreek
2019-11-23  3:49 ` Skip Tavakkolian [this message]
2019-11-23  9:29 ` Richard Miller
2019-11-23 14:24   ` Steven Stallion
2019-11-23 14:33     ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2019-11-23 14:57       ` Lucio De Re
2019-11-23 17:15       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2019-11-23 18:14         ` Federico Benavento
2019-11-23 18:24           ` hiro
2019-11-23 20:17     ` Kurt H Maier
2019-11-23 20:27       ` Kurt H Maier
2019-11-23 22:35         ` Steven Stallion
2019-11-23 22:43           ` hiro
2019-11-23 22:44             ` hiro
2019-11-24  2:03           ` Kurt H Maier
2019-11-24  6:34             ` Lucio De Re
2019-11-24  7:54               ` Kurt H Maier
2019-11-24 20:32               ` Ori Bernstein
2019-11-25  3:32                 ` Lucio De Re
2019-11-25  4:01                   ` Lucio De Re
2019-11-25  7:52                     ` Richard Miller
2019-11-23 23:08     ` Ori Bernstein
2019-11-23 23:46       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2019-11-24  8:53       ` Richard Miller
2019-11-24 12:41         ` hiro
2019-11-23 18:11   ` hiro
2019-11-24  6:50     ` Lucio De Re
2019-11-23 19:00   ` Kurt H Maier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-12-09  5:27 kokamoto
2019-12-09  4:05 kokamoto
2019-12-09  4:00 kokamoto
2019-12-09  4:34 ` ori
2019-12-09  8:06   ` Richard Miller
2019-11-27 10:04 kokamoto
2019-11-27  9:44 kokamoto
2019-11-26 23:02 kokamoto
2019-11-27  8:09 ` Richard Miller
2019-11-26  9:46 kokamoto
2019-11-26 14:49 ` Richard Miller
2019-11-24 17:32 ori
2019-11-24 23:40 ` Fazlul Shahriar
2019-11-25  8:47   ` David du Colombier
2019-11-25 23:41     ` Steven Stallion
2019-11-26  7:04       ` David du Colombier
2019-11-24 16:30 ori
2019-11-24 17:07 ` David du Colombier
2019-11-24 18:37   ` David Butler
2019-11-24 17:34 ` David L. Craig
2019-11-25  8:39 ` Richard Miller
2019-11-22  6:29 greemngreek
2019-11-22  6:44 ` [9fans] " Nick Owens
2019-11-22  7:42 ` Fazlul Shahriar
2019-11-22  8:00   ` greemngreek
2019-11-22  8:24 ` Richard Miller
2019-11-22  8:53 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2019-11-22 14:55   ` Don A. Bailey
2019-11-22 15:12   ` Jens Staal
2019-11-22 15:30   ` Steven Stallion
2019-11-24  4:40 ` Bakul Shah
2019-11-24  5:25   ` greemngreek
2019-11-24  6:13     ` Bakul Shah

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