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From: Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net>
To: 9front@9front.org
Subject: Re: [9front] pi4 wifi and audio
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 07:37:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <254948B7-E255-4DAE-AA43-AB413D9D280F@quintile.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG3JMta-dEpY8xwj2Wtwb_4nQY+jJ33WUWh1PJPgtKN=xWhL3g@mail.gmail.com>

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richard miller’s image runs wpa fine - the wpa code is cinap’s ported from 9front.

having said this i found a significant latency on wifi on the pi compared to wired ether. it was enough to make 9p feel a bit clunky when used to a file server; so i still use wires. i feel bad i never got to the bottom of the delays.


> On 13 Feb 2022, at 3:41 am, Thaddeus Woskowiak <tswoskowiak@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd hate to discourage people from putting in effort but just explaining the reality. 
>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022, 8:17 PM <thinktankworkspaces@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Quoth Thaddeus Woskowiak <tswoskowiak@gmail.com>:
>> > I don't think Miller's wifi does WPA or any auth. Though I've not ran
>> > Miller's pi image in a long time. Miller's wifi driver is also different
>> > from 9 front's WiFi driver so it's not a simple port.
>> > 
>> > For good pi audio I use a Dayton USB DAC which outputs pretty clean audio.
>> > 
>> > Unfortunately the pi uses a really crummy SoC as it started life as an
>> > EoL'd chip for set-top boxes. That's why it does weird crap like boot from
>> > the GPU and lacked proper Ethernet for ages. Even Pi founder Ebbon Upton
>> > was unable to grasp why people wanted proper Ethernet as the pi was only
>> > ever meant for teaching. It's an educational toy built from a chip
>> > scrounged from the cut out bin but everyone seems to want to ignore that
>> > part. You get what you pay for.
>> > 
>> > I tend to prefer cheap embedded PC's off eBay or itx Celeron SoC boards if
>> > I need a small low power system.
>> > 
>> > On Sat, Feb 12, 2022, 1:11 PM <thinktankworkspaces@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > So 9front on pi4 seems pretty stable. But has anyone got audio and wifi
>> > > working. I recall
>> > > reading some place that pi hardware developers kind of deviated from
>> > > convention so its a bit
>> > > tricky to get some of that stuff working. Perhaps I might also be asking
>> > > for some sort of
>> > > guide to read on how to build or deal with making drivers in 9front and
>> > > some troubleshooting
>> > > steps to follow. Ponies and Unicorns I want those also, so yea.
>> > >
>> > 
>> Interesting. Seems like a lot of wasted effort. Unless as you say using pi as a teaching
>> experiement. So what about hackboard2. Kind of the same specs but Intel. I'm wondering if
>> it will just boot 9front and work without too much fuss. 

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      reply	other threads:[~2022-02-13 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-12 17:43 thinktankworkspaces
2022-02-12 18:07 ` hiro
2022-02-12 18:46   ` Steve Simon
2022-02-12 20:56 ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
2022-02-12 22:45   ` thinktankworkspaces
2022-02-13  0:40     ` hiro
2022-02-13  2:55       ` thinktankworkspaces
2022-02-13  3:25     ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
2022-02-13  7:37       ` Steve Simon [this message]

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