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From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>
To: 9front@9front.org
Subject: Re: [9front] The 9 Documentation Project
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 10:19:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFSF3XP2Y4LXhoX1jFKCUuPCe6+TTeCcSPWp7+joCdgA-JmQpQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6D3C8A0C-139F-4B3C-817D-619AB1E2B16B@gmail.com>

sl, it sounds like you're arguing everything should be decentralized
and there should be no hierarchy, and yet the reality is power is
centralized and there is hierarchy and things are enforced (for
example what goes on the 9front website, or the minimum quality policy
for anything that goes into 9front, including the man pages
obviously).

being included on a 9front.org subdomain the fqa is clearly considered
official by visitors.
why do you insist you're some kind of wild rebel if the reality is
that powers have been granted to you specifically. is this somehow
troubling to you?

of course hidden power structures are easier enforced and get
questioned and attacked less often, but i can't beleive that would be
your motivation.

the reason i'm bringing this up is bec. with some alignment (i'm sure
there's enough overlap in goals to allow for this) the end result will
have a higher quality for all of us and we don't have to splinter into
multiple communities that have an even harder time communicating and
collaborating than what is currently the case (there were specific
complaints about this, so i believe we should make it better, not
worse)

"nobody can stop you but yourself" - i can't tell if you're trying to
make a religious/political statement here, if this is cynicism or if
you're serious. are you just being defensive or what kind of warning
is this

if i hear correctly your main suggestions are

1) people should just do whatever they feel like, on their own
platforms and form new unofficial spaces and not care about how it
fits in with the rest of the documentation.

strongly disagree, it seems highly unproductive.

2) you say most people are complaining about fqa7

i haven't heard any specific complaints about that. who exactly was
complaining about this? where? on this mailinglist?


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-30  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <98A6B5A900B5E1660221CE63074D0920@ewsd.inri.net>
2020-07-30  2:14 ` ori
2020-07-30  3:06   ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-30  3:12     ` Michael Misch
2020-07-30  8:19       ` hiro [this message]
2020-07-30  8:58         ` Kurt H Maier
2020-07-30 12:03       ` Ethan Gardener
2020-07-27  9:09 sirjofri+ml-9front
2020-07-27  9:56 ` [9front] " hiro
2020-07-27 15:10 ` Amavect
2020-07-27 15:54   ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-27 15:58 ` ori
2020-07-27 17:01   ` William Gunnells
2020-07-27 17:29     ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-27 18:09       ` William Gunnells
2020-07-27 20:01       ` ori
2020-07-27 21:22         ` Ethan Gardener
2020-07-28 19:10           ` cinap_lenrek
2020-07-29 22:36             ` Ethan Gardener
2020-07-27 22:06         ` Anthony Martin
2020-07-27 22:21           ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-27 23:46             ` ori
2020-07-27 22:17         ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-27 22:47           ` Kurt H Maier
2020-07-27 23:50             ` ori
2020-07-28  4:56               ` sirjofri+ml-9front
2020-07-28 10:18                 ` hiro
2020-07-28 11:27                   ` sirjofri+ml-9front
2020-07-28 12:14                     ` hiro
2020-07-28 13:08                       ` sirjofri+ml-9front
2020-07-28 14:16                         ` hiro
2020-07-28 15:01                           ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-28 15:12                             ` ori
2020-07-28 15:46                               ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-28 17:25                                 ` hiro
2020-07-28 17:37                                 ` ori
2020-07-28 17:43                                   ` Kurt H Maier
2020-07-28 15:11                         ` ori
2020-07-28 11:29                   ` sirjofri+ml-9front
2020-07-29 17:10                     ` ori
2020-07-30  1:02             ` sl
2020-07-28  9:48           ` hiro
2020-07-30 18:12 ` magma698hfsp273p9f
2020-07-30 18:48   ` kvik
2020-07-30 18:54   ` ori
2020-07-30 19:28     ` Eckard Brauer
2020-07-30 19:59     ` Romano
2020-07-31 13:44       ` kvik
2020-07-31 13:51         ` Stanley Lieber
2020-08-01 15:42         ` Ethan Gardener
2020-07-30 19:15   ` Kurt H Maier
2020-07-31 10:59     ` Ethan Gardener
2020-08-03 18:50       ` magma698hfsp273p9f
2020-08-04 17:13         ` Ethan Gardener

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