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From: William Gunnells <gunnells@gmail.com>
To: 9front@9front.org
Subject: Re: [9front] The 9 Documentation Project
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:09:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <71F79A60-E16D-475A-92BA-89EF7BAB9866@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44A75FA2-F810-45DA-8264-6DBB810C53F1@stanleylieber.com>

Agreed. But it's more than that. Linux now makes you seriously lazy. Ubuntu wants to do everything for you. Uncomment file and ’service blah restart’ barely any research required. Overtime you forget because the expectations of what a stable service should do. Well maybe stable.

It’s the same with programming. I got stuck doing python for years because it was what the company required and wanted. So I gave in and did it. Then I switched company and ran into a situation where Python was not feasible. It was extremely slow for the task that I had to complete. I picked C# because they had already written a bunch of tools for what i needed. I felt like an idiot for a few days because I had no choice but to deal with bad practices I picked up such as duct typing, improper casting, static typing wow, and bytes on a stack! With python over time I didn’t care about the objects. The regret is huge. Its like starting over when you revert to a really programming language.

Companies today are pumping out bad code and sadly I made poor contributions to that code because of laziness.

> On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Stanley Lieber <sl@stanleylieber.com> wrote:
> 
> part of the problem for new users is that plan 9 assumes any user understands the fundamentals of computing at a deeper level than even "power users" of other systems. this was already a stumbling block in the 1990s, and it has only deepened as operating systems drag the user experience farther and farther away from the underlying mechanisms.
> 
> sl



  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-27 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-27  9:09 sirjofri+ml-9front
2020-07-27  9:56 ` [9front] " hiro
2020-07-27 15:10 ` Amavect
2020-07-27 15:54   ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-27 15:58 ` ori
2020-07-27 17:01   ` William Gunnells
2020-07-27 17:29     ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-27 18:09       ` William Gunnells [this message]
2020-07-27 20:01       ` ori
2020-07-27 21:22         ` Ethan Gardener
2020-07-28 19:10           ` cinap_lenrek
2020-07-29 22:36             ` Ethan Gardener
2020-07-27 22:06         ` Anthony Martin
2020-07-27 22:21           ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-27 23:46             ` ori
2020-07-27 22:17         ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-27 22:47           ` Kurt H Maier
2020-07-27 23:50             ` ori
2020-07-28  4:56               ` sirjofri+ml-9front
2020-07-28 10:18                 ` hiro
2020-07-28 11:27                   ` sirjofri+ml-9front
2020-07-28 12:14                     ` hiro
2020-07-28 13:08                       ` sirjofri+ml-9front
2020-07-28 14:16                         ` hiro
2020-07-28 15:01                           ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-28 15:12                             ` ori
2020-07-28 15:46                               ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-28 17:25                                 ` hiro
2020-07-28 17:37                                 ` ori
2020-07-28 17:43                                   ` Kurt H Maier
2020-07-28 15:11                         ` ori
2020-07-28 11:29                   ` sirjofri+ml-9front
2020-07-29 17:10                     ` ori
2020-07-30  1:02             ` sl
2020-07-28  9:48           ` hiro
2020-07-30 18:12 ` magma698hfsp273p9f
2020-07-30 18:48   ` kvik
2020-07-30 18:54   ` ori
2020-07-30 19:28     ` Eckard Brauer
2020-07-30 19:59     ` Romano
2020-07-31 13:44       ` kvik
2020-07-31 13:51         ` Stanley Lieber
2020-08-01 15:42         ` Ethan Gardener
2020-07-30 19:15   ` Kurt H Maier
2020-07-31 10:59     ` Ethan Gardener
2020-08-03 18:50       ` magma698hfsp273p9f
2020-08-04 17:13         ` Ethan Gardener
     [not found] <98A6B5A900B5E1660221CE63074D0920@ewsd.inri.net>
2020-07-30  2:14 ` ori
2020-07-30  3:06   ` Stanley Lieber
2020-07-30  3:12     ` Michael Misch
2020-07-30  8:19       ` hiro
2020-07-30  8:58         ` Kurt H Maier
2020-07-30 12:03       ` Ethan Gardener

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