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From: Xavier Leroy <xavier.leroy@inria.fr>
To: Chris Hecker <checker@d6.com>
Cc: Daniel de Rauglaudre <daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] LL, LR, and camlp4 (was Re: syntax change)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:33:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020205103357.B17751@pauillac.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020205005831.03799740@arda.pair.com>; from checker@d6.com on Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 01:09:11AM -0800

> My question is just why did you hand-write the parser, rather than
> using a tool like yacc?  Was it because of the extensibility and hooks
> you needed in camlp4 and there's no way to make an extensible
> generated parser?

Yacc-generated parsers (LALR automata) are certainly not extensible --
or at least not without having to recompute most of the automata at
each extension.

> Are parser generators not all they're cracked up to be?  If so, why
> does caml use yacc?

Like all tools, parser generators work well for what they've been
designed to do.  In the case of Yacc, it works well for fixed grammars
(non extensible) of a certain kind (LALR(1) plus precedences for
disambiguation).  

The Caml compilers (OCaml, Caml Light, and even the original
LeLisp-based Caml) use Yacc-generated parsers because that's the
technology we had available at the time they were written, and it
works relatively well -- some efforts are required to disambiguate the
grammar, but at least Yacc tells you where the ambiguities are.

- Xavier Leroy
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-02-05  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-02  0:12 [Caml-list] otags problem Shivkumar Chandrasekaran
2002-02-04 14:11 ` [Caml-list] camlp4o problem (was: otags problem) Hendrik Tews
2002-02-04 14:52   ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 15:08     ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 15:41       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 15:57         ` Christophe Raffalli
2002-02-04 17:06           ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 16:25         ` [Caml-list] syntax change (was: camlp4o problem) Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 17:01           ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 17:46             ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 18:08               ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-06  8:19                 ` M E Leypold @ labnet
2002-02-04 18:28             ` Mattias Waldau
2002-02-04 20:11               ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 22:52                 ` Chris Hecker
2002-02-04 23:04                   ` Benjamin C. Pierce
2002-02-04 23:28                     ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 23:20                   ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-05  2:39                   ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05  2:55                     ` Chris Hecker
2002-02-05  2:01                 ` Brian Rogoff
2002-02-05 10:33                   ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-05 11:53                     ` Remi VANICAT
2002-02-05 12:05                       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05 17:23                       ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2002-02-22 10:15                       ` [Caml-list] Emacs mode for revised syntax? Johan Georg Granström
2002-02-22 10:21                         ` Christian Gillot
2002-02-06  8:23                 ` [Caml-list] syntax change (was: camlp4o problem) M E Leypold @ labnet
2002-02-04 23:04           ` Chris Hecker
2002-02-05  2:47             ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05  2:59               ` Chris Hecker
2002-02-05  8:42                 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05  9:09                   ` [Caml-list] LL, LR, and camlp4 (was Re: syntax change) Chris Hecker
2002-02-05  9:31                     ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05  9:33                     ` Xavier Leroy [this message]
2002-02-05 12:17                       ` Diego olivier FERNANDEZ PONS
2002-02-05  3:40     ` [Caml-list] camlp4o problem (was: otags problem) Patrick M Doane
2002-02-05  8:57       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-06  4:00         ` Patrick M Doane
2002-02-05 15:08     ` Hendrik Tews
2002-02-05 16:13       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-06 19:17         ` Yaron M. Minsky
2002-02-06 20:02           ` [Caml-list] Re: bug (was: camlp4o problem) Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 22:15   ` [Caml-list] camlp4o problem (was: otags problem) Shivkumar Chandrasekaran

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