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From: Chris Hecker <checker@d6.com>
To: Markus Mottl <markus@oefai.at>, Mattias Waldau <mattias.waldau@abc.se>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] syntax change (was: camlp4o problem)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 14:52:29 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020204144529.037923f0@arda.pair.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020204201140.GA1705@fichte.ai.univie.ac.at>


>This will probably not happen: there is just not enough incentive to
>learn a new syntax which is unlikely to become widespread - because it
>is non-standard.

I agree with this.  I think it'll have to be a top-down decision or it won't happen for real.

I (7660 lines of caml and going up quickly in my project) would make a major syntax change if I thought it was an investment in getting things "right" for moving forward.  I'd like it to happen sooner rather than later, if it was going to happen.  I've been tempted to try the revised syntax, but I didn't want to start mixing multiple syntaxes in a single project, and I would rather use the "standard" (whichever it is, and no definition of "standard" offered or wanted) just to make life easier.

I think you rarely get a chance to change major things, and so you should take the opportunity before it's too late.  I would support such a change if the team wanted to do it.  I don't think they should do it lightly, obviously, but I also don't think they should be terrified of a change like this either.  Decide what's best for the future of caml, weighing user pain (but not overly strongly) and cleanliness benefit, and make a decision.

Chris

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-04 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-02  0:12 [Caml-list] otags problem Shivkumar Chandrasekaran
2002-02-04 14:11 ` [Caml-list] camlp4o problem (was: otags problem) Hendrik Tews
2002-02-04 14:52   ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 15:08     ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 15:41       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 15:57         ` Christophe Raffalli
2002-02-04 17:06           ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 16:25         ` [Caml-list] syntax change (was: camlp4o problem) Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 17:01           ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 17:46             ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 18:08               ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-06  8:19                 ` M E Leypold @ labnet
2002-02-04 18:28             ` Mattias Waldau
2002-02-04 20:11               ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 22:52                 ` Chris Hecker [this message]
2002-02-04 23:04                   ` Benjamin C. Pierce
2002-02-04 23:28                     ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 23:20                   ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-05  2:39                   ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05  2:55                     ` Chris Hecker
2002-02-05  2:01                 ` Brian Rogoff
2002-02-05 10:33                   ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-05 11:53                     ` Remi VANICAT
2002-02-05 12:05                       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05 17:23                       ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2002-02-22 10:15                       ` [Caml-list] Emacs mode for revised syntax? Johan Georg Granström
2002-02-22 10:21                         ` Christian Gillot
2002-02-06  8:23                 ` [Caml-list] syntax change (was: camlp4o problem) M E Leypold @ labnet
2002-02-04 23:04           ` Chris Hecker
2002-02-05  2:47             ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05  2:59               ` Chris Hecker
2002-02-05  8:42                 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05  9:09                   ` [Caml-list] LL, LR, and camlp4 (was Re: syntax change) Chris Hecker
2002-02-05  9:31                     ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05  9:33                     ` Xavier Leroy
2002-02-05 12:17                       ` Diego olivier FERNANDEZ PONS
2002-02-05  3:40     ` [Caml-list] camlp4o problem (was: otags problem) Patrick M Doane
2002-02-05  8:57       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-06  4:00         ` Patrick M Doane
2002-02-05 15:08     ` Hendrik Tews
2002-02-05 16:13       ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-06 19:17         ` Yaron M. Minsky
2002-02-06 20:02           ` [Caml-list] Re: bug (was: camlp4o problem) Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 22:15   ` [Caml-list] camlp4o problem (was: otags problem) Shivkumar Chandrasekaran
2002-02-05  2:49 [Caml-list] syntax change (was: camlp4o problem) Arturo Borquez

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