* Re: [Caml-list] SPAM via CAMl-List?!
2004-01-01 17:47 [Caml-list] SPAM via CAMl-List?! Oliver Bandel
@ 2004-01-01 18:04 ` Matthieu BRUCHER
2004-01-01 18:06 ` David MENTRE
` (3 subsequent siblings)
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From: Matthieu BRUCHER @ 2004-01-01 18:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: caml-list
No, the same for me - in fact I think that since I'm on the list, that's
a little before the Christmas holydays, I received more SPAM than CAML
mails...
Happy New Year ;)
Miles
Oliver Bandel wrote:
>Hello,
>
>
>do you also get a lot of spam via the CAML-LIST?
>OR is this only a fake-header, which some
>spammers have created? (They may have read my emails
>for that?!)?!!
>
>
>Ciao,
> Oliver
>
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2004-01-01 17:47 [Caml-list] SPAM via CAMl-List?! Oliver Bandel
2004-01-01 18:04 ` Matthieu BRUCHER
@ 2004-01-01 18:06 ` David MENTRE
2004-01-01 18:27 ` [Caml-list] " Alan Post
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From: David MENTRE @ 2004-01-01 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Oliver Bandel; +Cc: caml-list
oliver@first.in-berlin.de (Oliver Bandel) writes:
> do you also get a lot of spam via the CAML-LIST?
yes.
Yours,
d.
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2004-01-01 17:47 [Caml-list] SPAM via CAMl-List?! Oliver Bandel
2004-01-01 18:04 ` Matthieu BRUCHER
2004-01-01 18:06 ` David MENTRE
@ 2004-01-01 18:27 ` Alan Post
2004-01-01 19:48 ` Matt Gushee
2004-01-01 23:40 ` Tim Freeman
2004-01-01 21:06 ` [Caml-list] " David Brown
2004-01-01 21:59 ` Brian Hurt
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From: Alan Post @ 2004-01-01 18:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
In article <20040101174711.GA1570@first.in-berlin.de>, Oliver Bandel wrote:
>
> do you also get a lot of spam via the CAML-LIST?
I suggest reading the list via nntp://news.gmane.org
The gmane.org mail/news gateway does spam tagging, along with the fun
archiving/search/webnews stuff.
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* Re: [Caml-list] Re: SPAM via CAMl-List?!
2004-01-01 18:27 ` [Caml-list] " Alan Post
@ 2004-01-01 19:48 ` Matt Gushee
2004-01-01 20:04 ` Matthieu BRUCHER
2004-01-01 23:40 ` Tim Freeman
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From: Matt Gushee @ 2004-01-01 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 06:27:00PM +0000, Alan Post wrote:
> In article <20040101174711.GA1570@first.in-berlin.de>, Oliver Bandel wrote:
> >
> > do you also get a lot of spam via the CAML-LIST?
>
> I suggest reading the list via nntp://news.gmane.org
>
> The gmane.org mail/news gateway does spam tagging, along with the fun
> archiving/search/webnews stuff.
Yes, but the severity of the current problem is new. Up until maybe two
weeks ago, I would get perhaps one spam message from Caml-list every
week or two. Now it's 2-3 dozen a day. If this keeps up, I (like many
other list members, no doubt) can try to teach SpamAssassin to filter
out spam from Caml-list, but if there are false positives they will be
diverted to my spam folder, which I only review every 2 or 3 weeks.
So I'd rather not have to do that. The fact that this is a new problem,
and is not occurring on other lists I subscribe to, suggests that the
spammers are exploiting a weakness in the way this list is administered.
I hope the list maintainers will look into it.
--
Matt Gushee When a nation follows the Way,
Englewood, Colorado, USA Horses bear manure through
mgushee@havenrock.com its fields;
http://www.havenrock.com/ When a nation ignores the Way,
Horses bear soldiers through
its streets.
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2004-01-01 19:48 ` Matt Gushee
@ 2004-01-01 20:04 ` Matthieu BRUCHER
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From: Matthieu BRUCHER @ 2004-01-01 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: caml-list
Matt Gushee wrote:
>On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 06:27:00PM +0000, Alan Post wrote:
>
>
>>In article <20040101174711.GA1570@first.in-berlin.de>, Oliver Bandel wrote:
>>
>>
>>>do you also get a lot of spam via the CAML-LIST?
>>>
>>>
>>I suggest reading the list via nntp://news.gmane.org
>>
>>The gmane.org mail/news gateway does spam tagging, along with the fun
>>archiving/search/webnews stuff.
>>
>>
>
>Yes, but the severity of the current problem is new. Up until maybe two
>weeks ago, I would get perhaps one spam message from Caml-list every
>week or two. Now it's 2-3 dozen a day. If this keeps up, I (like many
>other list members, no doubt) can try to teach SpamAssassin to filter
>out spam from Caml-list, but if there are false positives they will be
>diverted to my spam folder, which I only review every 2 or 3 weeks.
>
>So I'd rather not have to do that. The fact that this is a new problem,
>and is not occurring on other lists I subscribe to, suggests that the
>spammers are exploiting a weakness in the way this list is administered.
>I hope the list maintainers will look into it.
>
>
>
+1
I agree...
BTW, Mozilla Spam Flter functions very well and it learns very fast.
A solution could be to accept mails from senders that are on the mailing
list only, another useful behaviour could be to have a reply-to adress
equal to the mailing list adress...
Miles
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* Re: [Caml-list] Re: SPAM via CAMl-List?!
2004-01-01 18:27 ` [Caml-list] " Alan Post
2004-01-01 19:48 ` Matt Gushee
@ 2004-01-01 23:40 ` Tim Freeman
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From: Tim Freeman @ 2004-01-01 23:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: apost; +Cc: caml-list
>The gmane.org mail/news gateway does spam tagging, along with the fun
>archiving/search/webnews stuff.
Spam tagging is working fine for the caml list. The problem is that
identified spam is getting sent out instead of discarded. Here's a
.procmailrc recipe that discards it:
:0
* From owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr
* X-Spam: yes
/dev/null
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* Re: [Caml-list] SPAM via CAMl-List?!
2004-01-01 17:47 [Caml-list] SPAM via CAMl-List?! Oliver Bandel
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2004-01-01 18:27 ` [Caml-list] " Alan Post
@ 2004-01-01 21:06 ` David Brown
2004-01-01 21:59 ` Brian Hurt
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From: David Brown @ 2004-01-01 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Oliver Bandel; +Cc: caml-list
On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 06:47:11PM +0100, Oliver Bandel wrote:
> do you also get a lot of spam via the CAML-LIST?
> OR is this only a fake-header, which some
> spammers have created? (They may have read my emails
> for that?!)?!!
I just checked my spambox and most of the spam there was sent through
the caml-list. Most of it is "real" spam, and not windows viruses and
such.
The caml-list server does mark the messages with spam-oracle, although
it doesn't get as good of a hit ratio as my spam-oracle database. (I
didn't know I was getting these messages until now).
Historically, though, the caml-list has gotten more spam than any other
list I've been on. Perhaps the administrators need to reconsider only
allowing subscribers to post, or something more complicated, like
requiring feedback to post if you aren't a subscriber.
Dave
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2004-01-01 17:47 [Caml-list] SPAM via CAMl-List?! Oliver Bandel
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2004-01-01 21:06 ` [Caml-list] " David Brown
@ 2004-01-01 21:59 ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-02 9:43 ` Wolfgang Müller
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From: Brian Hurt @ 2004-01-01 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Oliver Bandel; +Cc: Ocaml Mailing List
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Oliver Bandel wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> do you also get a lot of spam via the CAML-LIST?
> OR is this only a fake-header, which some
> spammers have created? (They may have read my emails
> for that?!)?!!
>
>
I'm getting inundated at the moment. This and a couple of other mailing
lists I'm on. I'm wondering if some windows virus just kicked into phase
2.
--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."
- Gene Spafford
Brian
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2004-01-01 21:59 ` Brian Hurt
@ 2004-01-02 9:43 ` Wolfgang Müller
2004-01-02 12:15 ` Ohad Rodeh
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From: Wolfgang Müller @ 2004-01-02 9:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bhurt; +Cc: oliver, caml-list
These days, 80% of my mailbox is filled CAML-list SPAM. Could't you make
this list subscriber only, and monitor the subscribers a bit? I guess this
would really help.
Cheers,
Wolfgang
PS: And, by the way, a happy new year.
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* Re: [Caml-list] SPAM via CAMl-List?!
2004-01-02 9:43 ` Wolfgang Müller
@ 2004-01-02 12:15 ` Ohad Rodeh
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From: Ohad Rodeh @ 2004-01-02 12:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
I concur. SPAM through caml-list has become a real nuisance these days.
Ohad.
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These days, 80% of my mailbox is filled CAML-list SPAM. Could't you make
this list subscriber only, and monitor the subscribers a bit? I guess this
would really help.
Cheers,
Wolfgang
PS: And, by the way, a happy new year.
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