[Caml-list] IRC channels available on libera.chat

[Caml-list] IRC channels available on libera.chat

[Adrien Nader]

Hello,

Due to the recent troubles on freenode[1][2], I've connected to
irc.libera.chat early in order to create and register the same channels
that I know and take care ofa on freenode (i.e. #ocaml and #ocaml-fr).

I am not stating libera.chat is better than freenode.net although the
amount of staffers moving makes me think freenode.net will not be
running fine for a much longer time.

At the moment I believe it is better to keep both channels running and
to encourage people to connect on libera.chat too. In the future, I
might force migration by progressively silencing the channel that should
be abandoned.

If you maintain a relay bot, can you please add it on libera.chat too?

As far as I know, there is no Matrix bridge available currently. It
seems the discussion/process for bridge additions occurs at [3].

A good news is that I've gotten the full rights on the channel,
something which was requiring paperwork on freenode (which I had already
mentioned but never got around to doing and for which I never even remotely
got time for).

[1] https://lwn.net/Articles/856543/ (this still constantly changes)
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode#2021_ownership_change_and_conflict
[3] https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/issues/208

Best,

-- 
Adrien

Re: [Caml-list] IRC channels available on libera.chat

[Adrien Nader]

Hello,

Due to the behaviour of the new team on freenode, the future is clear
and has occurred much earlier than I had thought. The former freenode
staffers had been fairly good at doing things with people; the new
staffers seems to not prioritize communication and seems to have a BOFH
attitude instead.

As such everyone is quickly moving to irc.libera.chat and the control of
the #ocaml channel on freenode has been lost. Please point to
irc.libera.chat instead of irc.freenode.net in all your links.
The matrix bridge is not available but should happen soon. As for the
dicord bot, I have no control about it. In any case, it's not worth
waiting to change your links because #ocaml on freenode has been
bleeding users, which means there are far far fewer people there to
answer questions.

An explanation of what happened today. A few hours ago, it all channels
mentioning "libera" in the topic and without a group registration but
using a single # in their names have been automatically changed to
automatically redirect people to their counterparts with double ##.
Their topic has been changed. While this comes from a long-time freenode
policy, the the channel has existed for almost 18 years and staffers
never enforced it (and the group registration stuff was impossible
during a decade).  That this only applies to channels which mentioned
"libera" in their topic exemplifies well the attitude of the new
staffers.

Best,

-- 
Adrien

Re: [Caml-list] IRC channels available on libera.chat

[Adrien Nader]

Hello,

Hopefully this is the last part of the story.

Yotam Barnoy has set up the discord bot to use libera.chat.

The matrix bridge is unofficially available now. The schema has changed
and is now #ocaml:libera.chat . Some downtime should be expected in the
near future but the fact is that the bridge is available.

If you have control over something that still mentions freenode.net,
please update it to use libera.chat instead.

Thanks,

-- 
Adrien

Re: [Caml-list] IRC channels available on libera.chat

[Gabriel Scherer]

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Dear Adrien (and list),

Thanks for taking care of the migration!

I don't use IRC regularly anymore (it eats my time and makes my content
hard to find again), but I have made good use of whitequark's excellent IRC
log services over the last decade
  https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/ocaml/

Currently the log looks like #ocaml on freenode is still being logged, but
this channel is now empty.
(Of course logs still exist for any past discussions.)

Is there a similar log service for the libera.chat channel?
whitequark's webpage has a "Contact whitequark if your channel migrated to
another network" message, has anyone done so for #ocaml? (If not, I just
cc-ed whitequark.)

Best


On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 10:35 AM Adrien Nader <adrien@notk.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Hopefully this is the last part of the story.
>
> Yotam Barnoy has set up the discord bot to use libera.chat.
>
> The matrix bridge is unofficially available now. The schema has changed
> and is now #ocaml:libera.chat . Some downtime should be expected in the
> near future but the fact is that the bridge is available.
>
> If you have control over something that still mentions freenode.net,
> please update it to use libera.chat instead.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Adrien
>

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Re: [Caml-list] IRC channels available on libera.chat

[whitequark]

On 2021-05-30 16:22, Gabriel Scherer wrote:
> Dear Adrien (and list),
> 
> Thanks for taking care of the migration!
> 
> I don't use IRC regularly anymore (it eats my time and makes my
> content hard to find again), but I have made good use of whitequark's
> excellent IRC log services over the last decade
>   https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/ocaml/
> 
> Currently the log looks like #ocaml on freenode is still being logged,
> but this channel is now empty.
> 
> (Of course logs still exist for any past discussions.)
> 
> Is there a similar log service for the libera.chat channel?
> whitequark's webpage has a "Contact whitequark if your channel
> migrated to another network" message, has anyone done so for #ocaml?
> (If not, I just cc-ed whitequark.)

https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/ocaml

-- 
whitequark

Re: [Caml-list] IRC channels available on libera.chat

[Romain Calascibetta]

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Hi all,

Just to let you know that I spent a time to re-implement the IRC protocol
in OCaml and to deploy a simple MirageOS as
a logger to save discussions into a Git repository. The bot is currently
deployed, the explanation is available here:
https://github.com/dinosaure/cri/tree/master/unikernel
And used for #mirage@irc.libera.chat

It's a nice example about MirageOS/unikernel and I may deploy one to save
#ocaml@irc.libera.chat as whitequark already does with her bot.

Thanks,

Le ven. 18 juin 2021 à 11:48, Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Dear Adrien (and list),
>
> Thanks for taking care of the migration!
>
> I don't use IRC regularly anymore (it eats my time and makes my content
> hard to find again), but I have made good use of whitequark's excellent IRC
> log services over the last decade
>   https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/ocaml/
>
> Currently the log looks like #ocaml on freenode is still being logged, but
> this channel is now empty.
> (Of course logs still exist for any past discussions.)
>
> Is there a similar log service for the libera.chat channel?
> whitequark's webpage has a "Contact whitequark if your channel migrated to
> another network" message, has anyone done so for #ocaml? (If not, I just
> cc-ed whitequark.)
>
> Best
>
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 10:35 AM Adrien Nader <adrien@notk.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Hopefully this is the last part of the story.
>>
>> Yotam Barnoy has set up the discord bot to use libera.chat.
>>
>> The matrix bridge is unofficially available now. The schema has changed
>> and is now #ocaml:libera.chat . Some downtime should be expected in the
>> near future but the fact is that the bridge is available.
>>
>> If you have control over something that still mentions freenode.net,
>> please update it to use libera.chat instead.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Adrien
>>
>

-- 
Romain Calascibetta - http://din.osau.re/

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