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From: John J Lee <jjl@pobox.com>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Executable size?
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:36:35 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0311121823030.2472@alice> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C355048C-153A-11D8-A660-000393CFE6B8@spy.net>

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Dustin Sallings wrote:

> On Nov 12, 2003, at 8:14, John J Lee wrote:
[...]
> > I currently use Python by preference, but I'm interested in a language
> > (other than C/C++!) that doesn't depend on a big runtime library and
> > generates "reasonably" small executables -- modems are here to stay
> > for a while yet.
>
> 	The stuff I build on my Mac ends up being about 300k so far.  That
> seems reasonably small to me.

Thanks.  From how many lines of source code?

How big is the "hello world" executable?


> 	I'm not sure what a modem has to do with your distribution, but there

If you're distributing executables over the internet to people who use
modems (ie., most people ;-), download size is important.


> are options.  You could distribute the source to your app (which will
> be way smaller than the equivalent C or C++ application) and compile
> elsewhere, or you can use the transfer time to bask in your
> productivity and performance gains.  :)

Unfortunately, neither is an option.  I want to distribute single
executables (for Windows, anyway).  Actually, another issue: can O'Caml
generate Windows DLLs?  ISTR some issue about that...


> 	Python is a bad reference for two reasons:
>
> 	1) You don't typically distribute compiled python apps (and when you
> do, it's always bytecode).
> 	2) Ocaml's runtime is *amazingly* fast.

Well, bad reference for what purposes?  I don't care whether there's
bytecode, machine code, or lemon jelly in my .exes, as long as they're
small :-)  And I don't need any speed above what Python provides.


> 	I've prototyped a few apps in python before rewriting in ocaml for
> performance.  The speed gains alone are beginning to push python away
> from being my primary utility app language.  I like a lot about the
> language as well.

Great.


John

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-12 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-12 16:14 John J Lee
2003-11-12 17:33 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-12 18:06   ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 18:31     ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:50       ` John J Lee
2003-11-13  9:10         ` Sven Luther
2003-11-13 13:46           ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 14:28             ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:21   ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 22:53     ` Richard Jones
2003-11-12 23:50       ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 12:48     ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:25       ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 19:06   ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 18:38     ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 19:04       ` Karl Zilles
2003-11-12 21:29         ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 20:03       ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-13  4:14         ` Kamil Shakirov
2003-11-13  9:06           ` Richard Jones
2003-11-13  9:18         ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:46     ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 20:40       ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 20:10         ` Basile Starynkevitch
2003-11-12 20:35         ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 21:51           ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 21:35             ` David Brown
2003-11-12 22:12           ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-12 23:32             ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 22:53               ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-12 23:35               ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 23:44             ` John J Lee
2003-11-13  0:26               ` Karl Zilles
2003-11-13  1:29                 ` [Caml-list] F-sharp (was: Executable size?) Oleg Trott
2003-11-14  6:04                   ` [Caml-list] float_of_num Christophe Raffalli
2003-11-13 15:43               ` [Caml-list] Executable size? Eric Dahlman
2003-11-13 19:58                 ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 20:36                   ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-13 22:16                     ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 13:41                   ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:13                     ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 18:07                       ` skaller
2003-11-15 13:36                 ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:01                   ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 17:53                     ` skaller
2003-11-13 13:37         ` Florian Hars
2003-11-12 18:05 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 18:36   ` John J Lee [this message]
2003-11-12 19:04     ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 20:17       ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 20:01     ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2003-11-13  1:23 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-11-15 12:09 ` skaller

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