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From: "Joyal, André" <joyal.andre@uqam.ca>
To: "Peter Selinger" <selinger@mathstat.dal.ca>,
	       "Categories List" <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: dagger not evil (2)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:44:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1NSiLD-0000aK-Db@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F565E@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>

Dear Peter and all,

In my last message, I wrote that the forgetful functor DCat ---> Cat 
is wrong because it is not a right Quillen functor. 
The argument is not good enough.

I believe that a forgetful functor XStruc--->Cat should reflect 
weak equivalences in addition to preserving them.  

The forgetful functor DCat ---> Cat preserves weak equivalences
but it does not reflect them. 
Because two objects in a dagger category can be isomorphic
without been unitary isomorphic.

Best,
aj

-------- Message d'origine--------
De: Joyal, André
Date: mar. 05/01/2010 15:04
À: Peter Selinger; Categories List
Objet : dagger not evil
 
Dear Peter and all,

I cannot resist adding my grain of salt to the ongoing 
discussion on dagger categories.

I will take the point of view of a homotopy theorist.
Recall that the category of small categories Cat admits a
"natural" model structure (called the "folk" model structure
for the wrong reason by the folks). 

The category of small dagger categories DCat also admits 
a "natural" model structure. A dagger functor f:A-->B
is a weak equivalence iff it is fully faithful and 
unitary surjective (this last condition means that every object of B
is unitary isomorphic to an object in the image of the functor f).
The cofibrations and the trivial fibrations are as in Cat.
A fibrations is a unitary isofibration (a map having the lifting
property for unitary isomorphisms).


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      parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-06 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-03  7:23 the definition of "evil" Peter Selinger
2010-01-03 17:10 ` Claudio Hermida
2010-01-03 17:53 ` John Baez
2010-01-04 17:14   ` Michael Shulman
2010-01-04  9:24 ` Urs Schreiber
2010-01-05 20:04 ` dagger not evil Joyal, André
2010-01-06  8:40   ` Toby Bartels
2010-01-07  5:50     ` Peter Selinger
2010-01-08  0:45     ` Joyal, André
     [not found]   ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F5672@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
     [not found]     ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F5673@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-01-09  3:29       ` equality is beautiful Joyal, André
2010-01-10 17:17         ` Steve Vickers
     [not found]           ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F5677@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-01-12 10:25             ` A challenge to all Steve Vickers
2010-01-12 16:24             ` Joyal, André
2010-01-13  0:03               ` David Roberts
2010-01-13  0:47               ` burroni
     [not found]                 ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F5688@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
     [not found]                   ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F568B@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
     [not found]                     ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F568D@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
     [not found]                       ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F568F@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-01-15 19:33                         ` Joyal, André
2010-01-20  5:52                           ` Michael Shulman
2010-01-13  1:02               ` Jeff Egger
2010-01-13  2:28               ` Michael Shulman
2010-01-13 20:53                 ` equality Dusko Pavlovic
2010-01-14 14:23                   ` equality Colin McLarty
2010-01-13 23:43               ` A challenge to all Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2010-01-15 19:40               ` Thomas Streicher
2010-01-10 19:54         ` equality is beautiful Vaughan Pratt
2010-01-11  2:26         ` Richard Garner
2010-01-13 11:53         ` lamarche
2010-01-13 21:29           ` Michael Shulman
     [not found] ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F565E@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-01-06 15:44   ` Joyal, André [this message]

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