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From: Vaughan Pratt <pratt@cs.stanford.edu>
To: categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: equality is beautiful
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:54:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1NU7Qp-0004xb-87@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1NTcBM-0003xK-Go@mailserv.mta.ca>


Joyal wrote:
> Many people seem to distrust the equality
> relation between the objects of a (large) category.
> Is this a philosophical conundrum or a mathematical problem?

I don't even trust it for the *-autonomous category with two objects and
three morphisms.  This is the basis for the classical notion of truth as
normally understood when not trying to parse the sentences of
constructive mathematicians.

Some dark night someone could sneak into the basement where the
foundations of mathematics are stored and switch true and false around,
and in the morning we'd all wake up talking Doublespeak without even
realizing it.

Are you suggesting we should trust the equality relation between the
objects of that category?  Useful categories don't come much smaller.

It can't be a question of size because the free Heyting algebra on one
generator is infinite yet it doesn't have this structural ambiguity of
classical logic: we can trust its equality relation because we can tell
which element is the generator even if the arrows are accidentally
flipped---it's a sort of error-detection feature of that Heyting algebra
not possessed by any Boolean algebra.  This is a reason to prefer
intuitionistic logic over classical (not one I'd use myself mind you).

Best,
Vaughan


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-10 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-03  7:23 the definition of "evil" Peter Selinger
2010-01-03 17:10 ` Claudio Hermida
2010-01-03 17:53 ` John Baez
2010-01-04 17:14   ` Michael Shulman
2010-01-04  9:24 ` Urs Schreiber
2010-01-05 20:04 ` dagger not evil Joyal, André
2010-01-06  8:40   ` Toby Bartels
2010-01-07  5:50     ` Peter Selinger
2010-01-08  0:45     ` Joyal, André
     [not found]   ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F5672@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
     [not found]     ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F5673@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-01-09  3:29       ` equality is beautiful Joyal, André
2010-01-10 17:17         ` Steve Vickers
     [not found]           ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F5677@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-01-12 10:25             ` A challenge to all Steve Vickers
2010-01-12 16:24             ` Joyal, André
2010-01-13  0:03               ` David Roberts
2010-01-13  0:47               ` burroni
     [not found]                 ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F5688@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
     [not found]                   ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F568B@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
     [not found]                     ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F568D@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
     [not found]                       ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F568F@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-01-15 19:33                         ` Joyal, André
2010-01-20  5:52                           ` Michael Shulman
2010-01-13  1:02               ` Jeff Egger
2010-01-13  2:28               ` Michael Shulman
2010-01-13 20:53                 ` equality Dusko Pavlovic
2010-01-14 14:23                   ` equality Colin McLarty
2010-01-13 23:43               ` A challenge to all Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2010-01-15 19:40               ` Thomas Streicher
2010-01-10 19:54         ` Vaughan Pratt [this message]
2010-01-11  2:26         ` equality is beautiful Richard Garner
2010-01-13 11:53         ` lamarche
2010-01-13 21:29           ` Michael Shulman
     [not found] ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F565E@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-01-06 15:44   ` dagger not evil (2) Joyal, André
2010-03-14  8:51 equality is beautiful David Leduc
2010-03-15 11:25 ` Toby Bartels
2010-03-16  1:59   ` Michael Shulman
     [not found]   ` <4B9EE601.5070801@uchicago.edu>
2010-03-16  8:03     ` Richard Garner
2010-03-20  7:18       ` David Leduc
2010-03-21  2:17       ` Michael Shulman
     [not found]   ` <c3f821001003201917w4476a777i53fda02cb9bece66@mail.gmail.com>
2010-03-21 17:54     ` Richard Garner
2010-03-21 19:36       ` Toby Bartels
2010-03-22  9:17 ` Thomas Streicher
2010-03-22 16:15 ` Michael Shulman
2010-03-21 21:32 Bas Spitters

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