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From: Charles Wells <charles@abstractmath.org>
To: peasthope@shaw.ca, catbb <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: Explanations
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 14:58:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1QGrp9-00044X-Qt@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1QGFn2-0006ah-FD@mlist.mta.ca>

In the expression "any x:T->X" the T depends on x.  If you use the
arrow notation you seem bound to name the domain of the morphism.  You
could say "for any x with codomain X there is an e:dom x -> X ..." but
in the rest of the sentence you will have to mention the domain again.

My impression is that notation "any x:T->X" where T depends on x
without that fact being mentioned is common in category theory
writing.  There is nothing wrong with this if a reader understands the
intent.

I would call it "suppression of dependence".  In the Handbook I talked
about suppression of parameters, but this is not suppression of
parameters.  It is something I had not noticed before.   Are there
other situations in math where this happens?

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:56 PM, <peasthope@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Charles & everyone,
>
> Earlier peasthope wrote,
> "...changing a few words of a sentence can make a concept obvious rather
> than nebulous".  Revise that to "obvious rather than difficult".
>
> From:   Charles Wells <charles@abstractmath.org>
> Date:   Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:37:44 -0500
>> Can you give specific examples?  I suspect that in most cases the change
>> introduces a useful metaphor that was hidden before.
>
> Here is a small example from the _Conceptual Mathematics_ of
> Lawvere and Schanuel.  No offense to the authors or the book.
> It's an indispensible and invaluable resource.
>
> L&S page 292, "Definition ... equalizer ... and for each x:T-->X ... there is
> exactly one e:T-->E ... ."    "For all T" is implicit.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equalizer_(Mathematics) , "In category theory
> ... defined by a universal property, ... object E and morphism eq ... such that,
> given any other object O and morphism m ... ."
>
> For me, the reference to "any other object O" helps.  The definition in  the
> Wikipedia seems to reveal the "universality" of the equalizer better.  The
> diagram also helps.
>
> A trivial issue for most readers but a small detail can make a difference  for
> a student.
>
> Regards,                     ... Peter E.
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-30 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <BANLkTi=XhOM=FKajXUA6pyOq575fm_N=PQ@mail.gmail.com>
2011-04-29 19:56 ` Explanations peasthope
2011-04-30 19:58   ` Charles Wells [this message]
2011-05-02 17:01     ` Explanations Clemson Steve
2011-05-01 12:50   ` Explanations F. William Lawvere
     [not found] <654PeBPnq2496S01.1304350816@web01.cms.usa.net>
2011-05-02 18:22 ` Explanations peasthope
2011-05-01 21:27 Explanations peasthope
     [not found] <609PDdViw1024S04.1304197762@web04.cms.usa.net>
2011-05-01 21:00 ` Explanations peasthope
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-04-30 21:09 Explanations Fred E.J. Linton
2011-04-28 13:12 Explanations Ellis D. Cooper
2011-04-27  8:16 Explanations Mattias Wikström
2011-04-22 13:55 Explanations Graham White
2011-04-23 20:27 ` Explanations David Yetter
2011-04-23 21:29 ` Explanations Ronnie Brown
2011-04-25 13:51   ` Explanations Joyal, André
2011-04-26  0:52     ` Explanations jim stasheff
2011-04-26 13:45     ` Explanations William Messing
     [not found]     ` <4DB6CC7D.40407@math.umn.edu>
2011-04-26 22:05       ` Explanations Ronnie Brown
2011-04-23 21:52 ` Explanations Dusko Pavlovic
2011-04-25 13:17   ` Explanations ClemsonSteve
2011-04-26  5:55     ` Explanations Timothy Porter
2011-04-27  7:53       ` Explanations Uli Fahrenberg
     [not found] ` <17617_1303861705_4DB759C9_17617_39_1_E1QEryD-0006dq-7k@mlist.mta.ca>
2011-04-27 13:20   ` Explanations Marta Bunge
2011-04-20 17:22 Explanations Fred E.J. Linton
2011-04-21 19:09 ` Explanations peasthope
2011-04-19 23:37 Explanations Jean-Pierre Marquis

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