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From: "F. William Lawvere" <wlawvere@hotmail.com>
To: <peasthope@shaw.ca>, <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: Explanations
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 08:50:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1QGrs0-00046v-LW@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1QGFn2-0006ah-FD@mlist.mta.ca>

Dear Peter
We thought of "other" of course. But that word has no agreed on
mathematical definition. Students who think it means "distinct"
will be confused when told that it is a special application of the UMP
that yields the graph of a map as a section of a projection.
(Perhaps best if "self" is a special case of "other" ?)

Sammy always scolded Jon, Fred, Myles, and me that such "helpful"
explanations make difficult the digestion and mathematical use
of simple clear definitions. (I don't think this excludes explanation
in a separate paragraph or footnote).
Bill

> From: peasthope@shaw.ca
> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:56:48 -0800
> To: categories@mta.ca
> CC: peasthope@shaw.ca
> Subject: categories: Re: Explanations
> 
> Charles & everyone,
> 
> Earlier peasthope wrote,
> "...changing a few words of a sentence can make a concept obvious rather
> than nebulous".  Revise that to "obvious rather than difficult".
> 
> From:	Charles Wells <charles@abstractmath.org>
> Date:	Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:37:44 -0500
>> Can you give specific examples?  I suspect that in most cases the change
>> introduces a useful metaphor that was hidden before.
> 
> Here is a small example from the _Conceptual Mathematics_ of
> Lawvere and Schanuel.  No offense to the authors or the book.
> It's an indispensible and invaluable resource.
> 
> L&S page 292, "Definition ... equalizer ... and for each x:T-->X ... there is
> exactly one e:T-->E ... ."    "For all T" is implicit.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equalizer_(Mathematics) , "In category theory
> ... defined by a universal property, ... object E and morphism eq ... such that,
> given any other object O and morphism m ... ."
> 
> For me, the reference to "any other object O" helps.  The definition in  the
> Wikipedia seems to reveal the "universality" of the equalizer better.  The
> diagram also helps.
> 
> A trivial issue for most readers but a small detail can make a difference  for
> a student.
> 
> Regards,                     ... Peter E.
> 
> -- 
> Telephone 1 360 450 2132.  bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca
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> Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ .
> 
> 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-01 12:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <BANLkTi=XhOM=FKajXUA6pyOq575fm_N=PQ@mail.gmail.com>
2011-04-29 19:56 ` Explanations peasthope
2011-04-30 19:58   ` Explanations Charles Wells
2011-05-02 17:01     ` Explanations Clemson Steve
2011-05-01 12:50   ` F. William Lawvere [this message]
     [not found] <654PeBPnq2496S01.1304350816@web01.cms.usa.net>
2011-05-02 18:22 ` Explanations peasthope
2011-05-01 21:27 Explanations peasthope
     [not found] <609PDdViw1024S04.1304197762@web04.cms.usa.net>
2011-05-01 21:00 ` Explanations peasthope
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-04-30 21:09 Explanations Fred E.J. Linton
2011-04-28 13:12 Explanations Ellis D. Cooper
2011-04-27  8:16 Explanations Mattias Wikström
2011-04-22 13:55 Explanations Graham White
2011-04-23 20:27 ` Explanations David Yetter
2011-04-23 21:29 ` Explanations Ronnie Brown
2011-04-25 13:51   ` Explanations Joyal, André
2011-04-26  0:52     ` Explanations jim stasheff
2011-04-26 13:45     ` Explanations William Messing
     [not found]     ` <4DB6CC7D.40407@math.umn.edu>
2011-04-26 22:05       ` Explanations Ronnie Brown
2011-04-23 21:52 ` Explanations Dusko Pavlovic
2011-04-25 13:17   ` Explanations ClemsonSteve
2011-04-26  5:55     ` Explanations Timothy Porter
2011-04-27  7:53       ` Explanations Uli Fahrenberg
     [not found] ` <17617_1303861705_4DB759C9_17617_39_1_E1QEryD-0006dq-7k@mlist.mta.ca>
2011-04-27 13:20   ` Explanations Marta Bunge
2011-04-20 17:22 Explanations Fred E.J. Linton
2011-04-21 19:09 ` Explanations peasthope
2011-04-19 23:37 Explanations Jean-Pierre Marquis

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