From: "Fred E.J. Linton" <fejlinton@usa.net>
To: <peasthope@shaw.ca>
Cc: "categories" <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: Explanations
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 17:09:22 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1QGrpp-00045V-Ik@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
Hi, Peter,
Actually, the word "other" below introduces a red herring:
there is in fact every reason *not* to wish to restrict
attention only to objects O *other* than E or T or X -- indeed,
I can imagine that there might be settings in which there are
*no* objects "other than" E or T or X, in which case the
Wikipedia verbiage quoted paints you into a corner you really
*don't* want to be in :-) .
Cheers, -- Fred
------ Original Message ------
Received: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:30:49 PM EDT
From: peasthope@shaw.ca
To: categories@mta.ca
Cc: peasthope@shaw.ca
Subject: categories: Re: Explanations
> Charles & everyone,
>
> Earlier peasthope wrote,
> "...changing a few words of a sentence can make a concept obvious rather
> than nebulous". Revise that to "obvious rather than difficult".
>
> From: Charles Wells <charles@abstractmath.org>
> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:37:44 -0500
>> Can you give specific examples? I suspect that in most cases the change
>> introduces a useful metaphor that was hidden before.
>
> Here is a small example from the _Conceptual Mathematics_ of
> Lawvere and Schanuel. No offense to the authors or the book.
> It's an indispensible and invaluable resource.
>
> L&S page 292, "Definition ... equalizer ... and for each x:T-->X ... there
is
> exactly one e:T-->E ... ." "For all T" is implicit.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equalizer_(Mathematics) , "In category theory
> ... defined by a universal property, ... object E and morphism eq ... such
that,
> given any other object O and morphism m ... ."
>
> For me, the reference to "any other object O" helps. The definition in the
> Wikipedia seems to reveal the "universality" of the equalizer better. The
> diagram also helps.
>
> A trivial issue for most readers but a small detail can make a difference
for
> a student.
>
> Regards, ... Peter E.
>
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2011-04-30 21:09 Fred E.J. Linton [this message]
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2011-05-02 18:22 ` Explanations peasthope
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2011-05-01 21:27 Explanations peasthope
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2011-05-01 21:00 ` Explanations peasthope
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2011-04-29 19:56 ` Explanations peasthope
2011-04-30 19:58 ` Explanations Charles Wells
2011-05-02 17:01 ` Explanations Clemson Steve
2011-05-01 12:50 ` Explanations F. William Lawvere
2011-04-28 13:12 Explanations Ellis D. Cooper
2011-04-27 8:16 Explanations Mattias Wikström
2011-04-22 13:55 Explanations Graham White
2011-04-23 20:27 ` Explanations David Yetter
2011-04-23 21:29 ` Explanations Ronnie Brown
2011-04-25 13:51 ` Explanations Joyal, André
2011-04-26 0:52 ` Explanations jim stasheff
2011-04-26 13:45 ` Explanations William Messing
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2011-04-26 22:05 ` Explanations Ronnie Brown
2011-04-23 21:52 ` Explanations Dusko Pavlovic
2011-04-25 13:17 ` Explanations ClemsonSteve
2011-04-26 5:55 ` Explanations Timothy Porter
2011-04-27 7:53 ` Explanations Uli Fahrenberg
[not found] ` <17617_1303861705_4DB759C9_17617_39_1_E1QEryD-0006dq-7k@mlist.mta.ca>
2011-04-27 13:20 ` Explanations Marta Bunge
2011-04-20 17:22 Explanations Fred E.J. Linton
2011-04-21 19:09 ` Explanations peasthope
2011-04-19 23:37 Explanations Jean-Pierre Marquis
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