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* [COFF] Happy birthday, the Internet!
@ 2021-04-06 21:20 Dave Horsfall
  2021-04-06 22:01 ` Grant Taylor via COFF
  2021-04-06 22:57 ` Jim Carpenter
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From: Dave Horsfall @ 2021-04-06 21:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Computer Old Farts Followers

Born on this day in 1969 with the publication of RFC-1 "Host Software" by 
Steve Crocker, it basically specified the ARPAnet and the IMPs.

Oh, and it really peeves me when the stupid media call it "the internet"; 
it's a proper noun, hence is capitalised.

-- Dave
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* Re: [COFF] Happy birthday, the Internet!
  2021-04-06 21:20 [COFF] Happy birthday, the Internet! Dave Horsfall
@ 2021-04-06 22:01 ` Grant Taylor via COFF
  2021-04-06 22:57 ` Jim Carpenter
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From: Grant Taylor via COFF @ 2021-04-06 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: coff


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On 4/6/21 3:20 PM, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> Oh, and it really peeves me when the stupid media call it "the 
> internet"; it's a proper noun, hence is capitalised.

/The/ /Internet/ is one of a number of /internets/.

With "the" and the capital I referencing a specific one.

Sadly we are starting see the bifurcation of The Internet.



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Grant. . . .
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* Re: [COFF] Happy birthday, the Internet!
  2021-04-06 21:20 [COFF] Happy birthday, the Internet! Dave Horsfall
  2021-04-06 22:01 ` Grant Taylor via COFF
@ 2021-04-06 22:57 ` Jim Carpenter
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From: Jim Carpenter @ 2021-04-06 22:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: Computer Old Farts Followers

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 5:21 PM Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:
>
> Born on this day in 1969 with the publication of RFC-1 "Host Software" by
> Steve Crocker, it basically specified the ARPAnet and the IMPs.

That website is wrong. Saying the Internet's birthday is when RFC-1
came out is like saying a child's birthday is when mom's water broke.
It was getting close but it was not born yet.

I'll celebrate October 29, which is when the first data went over the
Arpanet. But even that isn't really correct, as the Internet is a
network of networks and Arpanet was all alone.

Jim
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* Re: [COFF] Happy birthday, the Internet!
  2021-04-07  3:38 Rudi Blom
@ 2021-04-07 19:20 ` Grant Taylor via COFF
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From: Grant Taylor via COFF @ 2021-04-07 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 4/6/21 9:38 PM, Rudi Blom wrote:
> did you know ...
> 
> capitalising internet means you have to hold the shift-key

Nonsense.

I can press the caps-lock key, type the "I", and then press the 
caps-lock key again.

I'm sure there's a copy and paste method too.  ;-)



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* Re: [COFF] Happy birthday, the Internet!
@ 2021-04-07  4:04 Noel Chiappa
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From: Noel Chiappa @ 2021-04-07  4:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Re: [COFF] Happy birthday, the Internet!
    > From: Jim Carpenter

    > But even that isn't really correct, as the Internet is a network of
    > networks and Arpanet was all alone.

Correct: the ARPANET was merely an ancestor (albeit an important one) of the
Internet. (The most important, in terms of technical influence, was CYCLADES,
"the key intermediate technical step between the ARPANET and the Internet".)
The ARPANET was later sort of subsumed into the Internet, as its original
long-haul backbone ("sort of" because the ARPANET's main protocol was
discarded, in doing so), but that's not too important.

If you want to select _a_ birthday for the Internet, I'd pick the day they
settled on the IPv4 packet format; we know when that was, it was the second
day of the 15/16 June, 1978 meeting (see IEN-68). I'm not wedded to that
date, if someone has a better suugestion (e.g. the firt PRNET to ARPNET test),
I'm open to hearing why the alternative's preferable.

	Noel
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* Re: [COFF] Happy birthday, the Internet!
@ 2021-04-07  3:38 Rudi Blom
  2021-04-07 19:20 ` Grant Taylor via COFF
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From: Rudi Blom @ 2021-04-07  3:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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did you know ...

capitalising internet means you have to hold the shift-key

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