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* [COFF] Re: [TUHS] Re: [off-topic] Anyone still using USENET?
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@ 2023-01-27 19:31       ` Stuff Received
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On 2023-01-27 14:23, Stuff Received wrote:
> On 2023-01-27 12:42, Henry Mensch wrote (in part):
>> I'd like to find solid Android and Windows clients so I could once 
>> again use USENET.
> 
> I read USENET (at Newsdemon -- USD3 monthly) with Firefox (on MacOS) but 
> presumably will also work on Windows.

Oops -- Thunderbird, not Firefox.

> 
> N.
> 
> (We seem to have strayed into COFF territory...)


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* [COFF] Re: Anyone still using USENET?
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@ 2023-01-28 21:24     ` Nevin Liber
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From: Nevin Liber @ 2023-01-28 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 4:16 AM Andy Kosela <akosela@andykosela.com> wrote:

> Great initiative and idea! While I am personally not interested in reading
> USENET that much nowadays, the concept of providing free, public access to
> classic Internet services (public USENET, FTP, IRC, finger, etc.) gets all
> my praise. What happened to free, public services these days?


First off, what is stopping you from providing free, public access to those
services?

I don't know where you are, but I have orders of magnitude more access to
freely available content and services than I ever did in the heyday of
Usenet, etc.  And for most of it, one doesn't have to be highly technical
to use it.


> Everything appears to to be subscriber pay-as-you-go based. The
> commercialization killed the free spirit of Internet we all loved in the
> 90s.
>

"Free" was never really true, as it required massive subsidies of
equipment, power, bandwidth and employee time, usually w/o the direct
knowledge or consent of the entities paying for it.

It reminds me of the lemonade stands I'd occasionally run as a kid, which
were "profitable" to me because mom and dad, with their knowledge and
consent, let me pretend that the costs were $0.
-- 
 Nevin ":-)" Liber  <mailto:nevin@eviloverlord.com>  +1-847-691-1404

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