zombie groups

zombie groups

[J. David Boyd]

I see a lot of groups in my zombie list, but not the newest ones from
gwene.com.  Is there some way to refresh the list?

Dave

Re: zombie groups

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

david@adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) writes:

> I see a lot of groups in my zombie list, but not the newest ones from
> gwene.com.  Is there some way to refresh the list?

If you're subscribing new groups as zombies, and you have
`gnus-check-new-newsgroups' set to `ask-server', then that should happen
automatically.

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zombie groups

[Janusz S. Bień]

I just noticed (in Gnus 5.8.3/GNU Emacs 20.7.2) that some of mine
subscribed mail groups are also listed as zombie groups. Is this a
bug?

Best regards

Janusz

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Re: zombie groups

[ShengHuo ZHU]

jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl (Janusz S. Bień) writes:

> I just noticed (in Gnus 5.8.3/GNU Emacs 20.7.2) that some of mine
> subscribed mail groups are also listed as zombie groups. Is this a
> bug?

Fixed in oGnus v0.01.

ShengHuo

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Re: zombie groups

[Janusz S. Bień]

ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:

> jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl (Janusz S. Bień) writes:
> 
> > I just noticed (in Gnus 5.8.3/GNU Emacs 20.7.2) that some of mine
> > subscribed mail groups are also listed as zombie groups. Is this a
> > bug?
> 
> Fixed in oGnus v0.01.
> 
> ShengHuo

Fine.

Could you explain in a few words the essential difference between
zombie and killed groups?

Best regards

Janusz


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Re: zombie groups

[ShengHuo ZHU]

jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl (Janusz S. Bień) writes:

> ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:
> 
> > jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl (Janusz S. Bień) writes:
> > 
> > > I just noticed (in Gnus 5.8.3/GNU Emacs 20.7.2) that some of mine
> > > subscribed mail groups are also listed as zombie groups. Is this a
> > > bug?
> > 
> > Fixed in oGnus v0.01.
> > 
> > ShengHuo
> 
> Fine.
> 
> Could you explain in a few words the essential difference between
> zombie and killed groups?

The difference is their levels, 8 for zombie and 9 for killed. When
you browse a server (gnus-browse-foreign-server), all unknown groups
are listed as killed.  In some Gnus, for example 5.8.3, zombie groups
are also listed as killed.  However, when you subscribe a zombie
group, Gnus didn't delete it from zombie-list. That's the bug.

ShengHuo

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Re: zombie groups

[Kai Großjohann]

On 05 Feb 2001, Janusz S. Bień wrote:

> Could you explain in a few words the essential difference between
> zombie and killed groups?

Zombie groups exist for a reason: for dealing with new groups.  Some
people might want new groups to be subscribed automatically.  But some
people don't want that, because they are normally not interested in
the new groups.  So it might be better to kill the new groups, rather
than subscribing them.

But if you kill new groups, you can't tell which groups are new,
anymore.  The new groups will be amongst all those uninteresting
groups.

Hence zombie groups.  They are almost like killed groups, except that
you can do `A z' to see the list of new groups (if you set
gnus-subscribe-newsgroup-method to gnus-subscribe-zombies).  After `A
z', you `C-k' (kill) the ones you don't want and you `u' (subscribe)
the ones you like.  And when tomorrow there are three more new groups,
`A z' lists just those three.

kai
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