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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Subject: Re: \201 irritation! :-)
Date: 23 Sep 2000 13:14:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87og1f8imp.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Dave Love's message of "Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:33:58 +0100"

Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk> writes:

> >>>>> "FW" == Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> writes:
> 
>  FW> Byte-combination kills the quoted-printable encoder (or used to
>  FW> do it in the past, at least).
> 
> I don't see why it should, at least for a sane charset.  Do you know
> exactly how it fails?

If there is a byte-combination, "(char-after)" returns values outside
the usual 0 .. 255 range, and "quoted-printable-encode-region" doesn't
handle this.  The best thing probably is to switch the buffer to
uni-byte mode during quoted-printable encoding.  Perhaps adding
"mm-with-unibyte-current-buffer" could do the trick?

>  FW> Copying byte-combinations between unibyte and multibyte buffers
>  FW> results in some weird effects.  Sometimes, Emacs is not 8-bit
>  FW> clean. :-(
> 
> I don't know what that means.  Just spurious combination of leading
> bytes stuffed raw into a multibyte buffer or something else?

Take the "Chinese" line from the HELLO file, copy it to a multi-byte
buffer, do "encode-coding-region" on it and specify "utf-8" as
encoding.  Copy the result to a unibyte buffer, and paste it back into
the first (multi-byte) buffer.  Now the \201s are there, you can see
them if you switch the first buffer to uni-byte mode.

The trouble with UTF-8 is that it tends to generate more
byte-combinations than other encodings, as it seems.

>  >> Anyway, the `eight-bit-control' charset in Mule 5.0 should fix that
>  >> sort of thing in the future, as well as allowing better auto-detection
>  >> of utf-8.
> 
>  FW> Does "encode-coding-region" produce characters in this encoding?
> 
> Do you mean _de_code-coding-region?  `encode-coding-region' would
> produce raw bytes.

And these raw bytes are not properly dealt with in multi-byte buffers.



  reply	other threads:[~2000-09-23 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-08-27 17:21 François Pinard
2000-08-27 21:13 ` François Pinard
2000-08-28  8:44   ` Kai Großjohann
2000-08-28 19:14 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-08-28 19:54   ` François Pinard
2000-08-28 21:36     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-08-28 22:46       ` François Pinard
2000-09-05 14:29         ` Dave Love
2000-09-05 16:19           ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-09-08 23:32             ` Dave Love
2000-09-09  2:49               ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-09-06 14:56           ` François Pinard
2000-09-08 22:40             ` Dave Love
2000-09-16 18:14               ` Florian Weimer
2000-09-18 14:07                 ` Dave Love
2000-09-20 16:56                   ` Florian Weimer
2000-09-20 19:26                     ` Kai Großjohann
2000-11-11 16:35                       ` Florian Weimer
2000-11-15  5:38                         ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-11-27 13:40                         ` François Pinard
2000-11-27 14:35                           ` tick and backtick in unicode Alan Shutko
2000-11-27 16:56                             ` François Pinard
2000-11-27 19:47                               ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-11-27 20:57                                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-11-28  6:01                                 ` François Pinard
2000-11-29  5:45                                   ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-11-30  1:57                                     ` Kai Großjohann
2000-11-30  4:19                                       ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-11-30  6:33                                         ` Graham Murray
2000-11-30 12:38                                         ` Per Abrahamsen
2000-11-30 11:23                                       ` Toby Speight
2000-09-21 19:33                     ` \201 irritation! :-) Dave Love
2000-09-23 11:14                       ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2000-09-25 11:55                         ` Dave Love
2000-09-28 12:22                           ` Florian Weimer
2000-09-29 19:18                             ` QP encoding is now unibyte (was: " Florian Weimer
2000-10-03 23:17                             ` Dave Love
2000-09-05 14:16 ` Dave Love
2000-09-06 14:49   ` François Pinard
2000-09-06 20:15     ` Kai Großjohann
2000-09-07  7:34       ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-09-08  9:31         ` Janne Rinta-Manty
2000-09-08 17:49           ` Simon Josefsson
2000-09-08 23:44         ` Dave Love
2000-09-12  8:51           ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-09-12 12:02             ` Kai Großjohann
2000-09-13 19:25             ` Dave Love
2000-09-14  7:49               ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-09-14 12:18                 ` ShengHuo ZHU
2000-09-14 21:50                   ` Dave Love
2000-09-14 23:06                     ` ShengHuo ZHU
2000-09-18 13:51                       ` Dave Love
2000-09-18 14:39                         ` ShengHuo ZHU
2000-09-22 14:23                           ` Dave Love
2000-09-14 21:42                 ` Dave Love
2000-09-15  3:29                 ` ShengHuo ZHU
2000-09-20  9:34                   ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-09-20 13:06                     ` ShengHuo ZHU
2000-09-20 14:55                       ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-09-20 14:16                         ` ShengHuo ZHU
2000-09-21  8:35                           ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-09-21 19:02                             ` Dave Love
2000-09-23  6:35                             ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-09-25 11:33                               ` Dave Love
2000-09-25 18:50                                 ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-09-27 21:56                                   ` Dave Love
2000-09-08 22:33     ` Dave Love

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