Re: Streamlining first-time Gnus usage

[Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>]

On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:05:09 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> Also I think the topic mode should be on by default and if there are no
>> topics, the user should be asked if he'd like to make a global topic
>> that contains everything so far. 

LMI> I have a suspicion that the common case for most new users wouldn't be
LMI> to have so many groups that topics make much sense.  But I could be
LMI> wrong.  :-)

It's not that they need the topics at first, it's that showing even one
topic will make them wonder what topics are and how to use them.  From
there they'll learn about topic parameters, and soon enough they'll be
contributing to Gnus.  So this is really a request for minions[1].

On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:11:10 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

>> I really don't like my secrets in memory outside of the EPA-managed
>> buffer.  So I'm against this change even if it seems to be more
>> convenient.  Better to let EPA cache the results, if it can, or use a
>> non-encrypted file if you don't like it.

LMI> I don't really like storing this data in Emacs memory, either, but
LMI> storing it as plain text files is even more yucky.  I think.  But only
LMI> slightly.

LMI> But if we don't store this data in Emacs memory (by default), then Gnus
LMI> is basically unusable for a new user.  So it's a trade-off.  So, if we
LMI> think that having secrets in memory is better than having them on disk
LMI> (slightly), then I think this is the best ~/.authinfo.gpg solution so
LMI> far.  But I'd, too, like to see this solved a better way.

Let me see what I can do with auth-source.el rewrite.  Coming Real Soon
Now.  Like this year.  I'm going to devour netrc.el anyhow so I'll try
to remove the in-memory cache if possible.

Ted