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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Getting rid of the primary/secondary distinction (was: Streamlining first-time Gnus usage)
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:07:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3y67t4hkq.fsf_-_@quimbies.gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <sa3d3p5k27g.fsf@cigue.easter-eggs.fr>

Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:

> Or we just force every methods to have a prefix, so we only handle
> something that looks like current secondary methods?

Yes, I think that would be clearer.  Then there wouldn't be any subtle
issues of which method gets to be unprefixed and stuff.

However, I don't know how I'd like having all the groups be prefixed.
Then I think the group buffer, at least, should be displayed
differently.  Perhaps just do everything, er, like so:

imap      4342244: misc.unanswered
nntp           23: gmane.discuss
nntp            *: gnu.emacs.gnus

and not mention the complete prefixed name...

However, commands that expect group names will still expect group names,
so people would have to deal with the complete names at some point.
Although it's easier now, since the completion code has gotten so much
better.  I never type a complete name with `j' any more, but just some
random string from the middle of the group name.

This would actually be really easy to implement.

`gnus-select-method' would just default to nnnil, as Adam suggested.
`gnus-methods' would default to `gnus-secondary-select-methods' (for
legacy purposes).  So new users would only use `gnus-methods', while
older users could continue to use their old stuff.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen




  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-13 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-13 16:10 Streamlining first-time Gnus usage Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-13 16:15 ` Julien Danjou
2010-12-13 16:29   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-13 16:44     ` Julien Danjou
2010-12-13 16:52       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-13 17:33         ` Julien Danjou
2010-12-13 19:07           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2010-12-14 10:06             ` Getting rid of the primary/secondary distinction Julien Danjou
2010-12-15 19:44               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-15 15:46             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-15 19:42               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-15 20:51                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-15 21:17                   ` Philipp Haselwarter
2010-12-15 21:31                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-15 21:27                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-15 21:36                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-16 18:08                   ` Adam Sjøgren
2010-12-15 20:29               ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-15 20:52                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-15 21:05                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-15 21:30                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-16 13:21                   ` Andy Moreton
2010-12-16 16:17                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-13 19:55       ` Streamlining first-time Gnus usage Dan Christensen
2010-12-13 20:22         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-15 15:43           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-13 20:23         ` Adam Sjøgren
2010-12-13 20:26           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-13 20:47             ` Adam Sjøgren
2010-12-13 17:02     ` Adam Sjøgren
2010-12-13 17:05       ` Adam Sjøgren
2010-12-13 17:17         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-13 17:48           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-13 19:11             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-15 15:40               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-15 20:11                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-15 15:36       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-13 19:16     ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-13 20:24       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-14  8:07         ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-14  9:54           ` Julien Danjou
2010-12-14 10:20             ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-14 10:34               ` Julien Danjou
2010-12-14 11:07               ` Rupert Swarbrick
2010-12-15 15:34           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-15 20:05             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-15 20:57               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-15 21:29                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-16 16:22                 ` Poll time: Topics should default to on or off? (was: Streamlining first-time Gnus usage) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-16 16:28                   ` Poll time: Topics should default to on or off? Julien Danjou
2010-12-16 17:30                   ` David Edmondson
2010-12-16 19:46                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-16 20:12                     ` Richard Riley
2010-12-16 20:21                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-16 20:53                         ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-16 21:04                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-16 21:20                             ` Adam Sjøgren
2010-12-16 21:27                               ` Rupert Swarbrick
2010-12-17  2:15                                 ` jidanni
2010-12-17 10:32                                   ` Richard Riley
2010-12-17 14:13                                     ` changes to spam.el (was: Poll time: Topics should default to on or off?) Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-16 22:52                             ` Poll time: Topics should default to on or off? Greg Troxel
2010-12-18 20:41                   ` Reiner Steib
2010-12-18 21:40                     ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-19 14:18                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-19 15:44                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-01-19 22:23                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-01-22  3:03                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-01-24 17:55                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-01-24 18:24                               ` Robert Pluim
2011-01-24 22:11                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-01-24 22:35                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-01-24 22:37                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-01-25 17:01                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-01-25 22:09                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-01-26 16:57                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-01-26 22:58                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-01-27 19:38                                               ` how to start clean Gnus (was: Poll time: Topics should default to on or off?) Ted Zlatanov
2011-01-27 23:59                                                 ` how to start clean Gnus Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-01-28  7:39                                                   ` Reiner Steib
2011-01-28 15:41                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-21 20:53                     ` Poll time: Topics should default to on or off? Steven E. Harris
2010-12-21 21:14                       ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-22 23:10                         ` Steven E. Harris
2010-12-23  8:08                           ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-23 12:53                             ` Matt Lundin
2010-12-23 13:14                               ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-23 19:22                             ` Steinar Bang
2011-01-19 22:22                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-01-02  6:31                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-01-03  6:53                         ` Steinar Bang
2011-01-04  0:06                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-01-04  9:09                             ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-15 20:03           ` Streamlining first-time Gnus usage Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-13 21:26       ` Philipp Haselwarter
2010-12-13 21:57         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-13 22:23           ` Philipp Haselwarter
2010-12-15 15:31           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-14  8:55     ` Francis Moreau
2010-12-16 18:17       ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-02-15 21:04       ` Unmark old messages Johnny
2011-02-15 21:17         ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-02-15 21:39           ` Johnny
2011-02-15 21:58             ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-02-15 22:28               ` Johnny
2011-02-15 22:47                 ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-02-15 23:11                   ` Johnny
2010-12-15 15:50     ` Streamlining first-time Gnus usage Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-16 13:22     ` Ludovic Courtès
2010-12-16 16:29       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-17 16:17         ` Ludovic Courtès
2010-12-17 16:20           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-18 21:01         ` Reiner Steib
2010-12-18 23:11           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-14 10:21   ` Richard Riley
2010-12-14  1:49 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2010-12-14  8:39   ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-15 20:01   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-16  4:00     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2010-12-16  9:21       ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-17  2:49         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2010-12-17 13:42           ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-17 14:54         ` Bjørn Mork
2010-12-17 15:35           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-16 16:26       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-17  2:12         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2010-12-17 16:18           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-12-14 10:20 ` Richard Riley

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