* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
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@ 2010-10-02 13:07 ` Adam Sjøgren
2010-10-02 13:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2010-10-02 13:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 23:30:30 +0200, Lars wrote:
> Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
Any chance that this could be configurable? I have gotten used to using
h for the old behaviour, which I find more useful.
Maybe that is bound to some other key I haven't hit?
Best regards,
Adam
--
"None of them kicks go boom Adam Sjøgren
None of them basslines fill the room" asjo@koldfront.dk
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2010-10-02 13:07 ` [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer Adam Sjøgren
@ 2010-10-02 13:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-02 13:38 ` Adam Sjøgren
2010-10-02 17:55 ` James Cloos
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-10-02 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>> Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
>
> Any chance that this could be configurable? I have gotten used to using
> h for the old behaviour, which I find more useful.
Yeah, I was confused myself a bit with the new behaviour... but after
using it for a few hours, I think it makes more sense than the old. If
you select the article buffer, you're going to do something there, so
removing the summary buffer seems nice.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
2010-10-02 13:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2010-10-02 13:38 ` Adam Sjøgren
2010-10-02 15:47 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-10-02 17:55 ` James Cloos
1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2010-10-02 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:13:37 +0200, Lars wrote:
> Yeah, I was confused myself a bit with the new behaviour... but after
> using it for a few hours, I think it makes more sense than the old.
Hm. I shall - reluctantly - give it a try.
:-),
Adam
--
"None of them kicks go boom Adam Sjøgren
None of them basslines fill the room" asjo@koldfront.dk
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* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
2010-10-02 13:38 ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2010-10-02 15:47 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-10-03 7:07 ` Steinar Bang
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-10-02 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:38:38 +0200 asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) wrote:
AS> On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:13:37 +0200, Lars wrote:
>> Yeah, I was confused myself a bit with the new behaviour... but after
>> using it for a few hours, I think it makes more sense than the old.
AS> Hm. I shall - reluctantly - give it a try.
I like the new `h' behavior in the summary buffer. I almost never want
to see the summary buffer when I switch to the article buffer, and in
the case I do I can hit `h' again.
Ted
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* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
2010-10-02 15:47 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2010-10-03 7:07 ` Steinar Bang
2010-10-03 11:33 ` Adam Sjøgren
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 2010-10-03 7:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>:
> On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:38:38 +0200 asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) wrote:
AS> On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:13:37 +0200, Lars wrote:
>>> Yeah, I was confused myself a bit with the new behaviour... but after
>>> using it for a few hours, I think it makes more sense than the old.
AS> Hm. I shall - reluctantly - give it a try.
> I like the new `h' behavior in the summary buffer. I almost never
> want to see the summary buffer when I switch to the article buffer,
> and in the case I do I can hit `h' again.
Seems useful. What was `h' bound to in earlier versions?
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* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
2010-10-03 7:07 ` Steinar Bang
@ 2010-10-03 11:33 ` Adam Sjøgren
2010-10-03 20:23 ` Steinar Bang
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From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2010-10-03 11:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 09:07:28 +0200, Steinar wrote:
> Seems useful. What was `h' bound to in earlier versions?
Jumping from the summary to the article and back (without changing size).
If you weren't using it, you won't notice :-)
Best regards,
Adam
--
"None of them kicks go boom Adam Sjøgren
None of them basslines fill the room" asjo@koldfront.dk
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2010-10-03 11:33 ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2010-10-03 20:23 ` Steinar Bang
0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 2010-10-03 20:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren):
> If you weren't using it, you won't notice :-)
It's like one command in psgml I didn't notice until James Clark said he
wouldn't implement it in nxml. And it was like, really useful (though I
can't remember today what it was...).
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* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
2010-10-02 13:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-02 13:38 ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2010-10-02 17:55 ` James Cloos
2010-10-03 12:42 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2010-10-02 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
LMI> Yeah, I was confused myself a bit with the new behaviour... but
LMI> after using it for a few hours, I think it makes more sense than
LMI> the old. If you select the article buffer, you're going to do
LMI> something there, so removing the summary buffer seems nice.
It is a disaster. :)
If anyone actually likes that new behaviour, please make it
configurable.
The current setup for h is never what I want. The flashing from
bouncing the buffers is extremely -- even painfully -- annoying.
FF (and now SM) do something like that for some dialogs now;
it is no less painful there.
Replacing a whole frame buffer with another whole frame buffer is OK.
Popping a new buffer off and on at the top causes severe eye fatigue.
-JimC
--
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6
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* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
2010-10-02 17:55 ` James Cloos
@ 2010-10-03 12:42 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-03 22:11 ` James Cloos
2010-10-04 16:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-10-03 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> writes:
> If anyone actually likes that new behaviour, please make it
> configurable.
After playing with it some more, I think it's more annoying than
useful. I'll switch it back to the old behaviour.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
2010-10-03 12:42 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2010-10-03 22:11 ` James Cloos
2010-10-04 16:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2010-10-03 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
LMI> After playing with it some more, I think it's more annoying than
LMI> useful. I'll switch it back to the old behaviour.
My aging eyes thank you.
-JimC
--
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6
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* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
2010-10-03 12:42 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-03 22:11 ` James Cloos
@ 2010-10-04 16:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-10-04 16:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-04 16:58 ` Tibor Simko
1 sibling, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-10-04 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 14:42:09 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
LMI> James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> writes:
>> If anyone actually likes that new behaviour, please make it
>> configurable.
LMI> After playing with it some more, I think it's more annoying than
LMI> useful. I'll switch it back to the old behaviour.
Boo, that's taking candy away from the children after they already
licked it... Maybe the buffer flashing is annoying to some, but I use
large fonts so screen real estate is very valuable. How can I get this
effect of "zoom article buffer as would `C-x 1'" and be able to reverse
it back on a single key?
Ted
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* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
2010-10-04 16:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2010-10-04 16:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-04 17:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-10-04 16:58 ` Tibor Simko
1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-10-04 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> Boo, that's taking candy away from the children after they already
> licked it... Maybe the buffer flashing is annoying to some, but I use
> large fonts so screen real estate is very valuable. How can I get this
> effect of "zoom article buffer as would `C-x 1'" and be able to reverse
> it back on a single key?
Well, you can bind `h' in the summary buffer to do what `h' did for a
couple of days.
Or I can add yet another conf option. :-)
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
2010-10-04 16:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2010-10-04 17:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-10-04 17:28 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-10-04 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 18:54:50 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> Boo, that's taking candy away from the children after they already
>> licked it... Maybe the buffer flashing is annoying to some, but I use
>> large fonts so screen real estate is very valuable. How can I get this
>> effect of "zoom article buffer as would `C-x 1'" and be able to reverse
>> it back on a single key?
LMI> Well, you can bind `h' in the summary buffer to do what `h' did for a
LMI> couple of days.
I'm saying I think it's generally useful. So bring it back as a
standalone function, if possible. Was it very different from the
current `h' or can I just make a `C-u h' version that switches on the
universal prefix?
LMI> Or I can add yet another conf option. :-)
No, please. We're only human...
Ted
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* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
2010-10-04 17:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2010-10-04 17:28 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-08 15:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-10-04 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> I'm saying I think it's generally useful. So bring it back as a
> standalone function, if possible. Was it very different from the
> current `h' or can I just make a `C-u h' version that switches on the
> universal prefix?
It only differs in what window conf is selects.
> LMI> Or I can add yet another conf option. :-)
>
> No, please. We're only human...
Haha! Too late!
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
2010-10-04 17:28 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2010-10-08 15:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-10-08 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:28:00 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
LMI> Or I can add yet another conf option. :-)
>> No, please. We're only human...
LMI> Haha! Too late!
Considering how many variables and code you've *removed* in the last few
weeks, I'm not complaining at all.
Ted
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* Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
2010-10-04 16:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-10-04 16:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2010-10-04 16:58 ` Tibor Simko
1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Tibor Simko @ 2010-10-04 16:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ted Zlatanov; +Cc: ding
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
> Boo, that's taking candy away from the children after they already
> licked it... Maybe the buffer flashing is annoying to some, but I use
> large fonts so screen real estate is very valuable. How can I get
> this effect of "zoom article buffer as would `C-x 1'" and be able to
> reverse it back on a single key?
FWIW, I kind of liked the new behaviour as well. Could it be made
configurable and/or plugged somewhere else?
Best regards
--
Tibor Simko
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