Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Adam Sjøgren]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 23:30:30 +0200, Lars wrote:

>     Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

Any chance that this could be configurable? I have gotten used to using
h for the old behaviour, which I find more useful.

Maybe that is bound to some other key I haven't hit?


  Best regards,

    Adam

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 "None of them kicks go boom                                  Adam Sjøgren
  None of them basslines fill the room"                  asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

>>     Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.
>
> Any chance that this could be configurable? I have gotten used to using
> h for the old behaviour, which I find more useful.

Yeah, I was confused myself a bit with the new behaviour...  but after
using it for a few hours, I think it makes more sense than the old.  If
you select the article buffer, you're going to do something there, so
removing the summary buffer seems nice.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Adam Sjøgren]

On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:13:37 +0200, Lars wrote:

> Yeah, I was confused myself a bit with the new behaviour...  but after
> using it for a few hours, I think it makes more sense than the old.

Hm. I shall - reluctantly - give it a try.


  :-),

   Adam

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 "None of them kicks go boom                                  Adam Sjøgren
  None of them basslines fill the room"                  asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:38:38 +0200 asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) wrote: 

AS> On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:13:37 +0200, Lars wrote:
>> Yeah, I was confused myself a bit with the new behaviour...  but after
>> using it for a few hours, I think it makes more sense than the old.

AS> Hm. I shall - reluctantly - give it a try.

I like the new `h' behavior in the summary buffer.  I almost never want
to see the summary buffer when I switch to the article buffer, and in
the case I do I can hit `h' again.

Ted

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[James Cloos]

>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

LMI> Yeah, I was confused myself a bit with the new behaviour...  but
LMI> after using it for a few hours, I think it makes more sense than
LMI> the old.  If you select the article buffer, you're going to do
LMI> something there, so removing the summary buffer seems nice.

It is a disaster. :)

If anyone actually likes that new behaviour, please make it
configurable.

The current setup for h is never what I want.  The flashing from
bouncing the buffers is extremely -- even painfully -- annoying.

FF (and now SM) do something like that for some dialogs now;
it is no less painful there.

Replacing a whole frame buffer with another whole frame buffer is OK.

Popping a new buffer off and on at the top causes severe eye fatigue.

-JimC
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James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>:

> On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:38:38 +0200 asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) wrote: 

AS> On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:13:37 +0200, Lars wrote:
>>> Yeah, I was confused myself a bit with the new behaviour...  but after
>>> using it for a few hours, I think it makes more sense than the old.

AS> Hm. I shall - reluctantly - give it a try.

> I like the new `h' behavior in the summary buffer.  I almost never
> want to see the summary buffer when I switch to the article buffer,
> and in the case I do I can hit `h' again.

Seems useful.  What was `h' bound to in earlier versions?

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Adam Sjøgren]

On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 09:07:28 +0200, Steinar wrote:

> Seems useful.  What was `h' bound to in earlier versions?

Jumping from the summary to the article and back (without changing size).

If you weren't using it, you won't notice :-)


  Best regards,

    Adam

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 "None of them kicks go boom                                  Adam Sjøgren
  None of them basslines fill the room"                  asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> writes:

> If anyone actually likes that new behaviour, please make it
> configurable.

After playing with it some more, I think it's more annoying than
useful.  I'll switch it back to the old behaviour.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren):

> If you weren't using it, you won't notice :-)

It's like one command in psgml I didn't notice until James Clark said he
wouldn't implement it in nxml.  And it was like, really useful (though I
can't remember today what it was...).

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[James Cloos]

>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

LMI> After playing with it some more, I think it's more annoying than
LMI> useful.  I'll switch it back to the old behaviour.

My aging eyes thank you.

-JimC
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James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 14:42:09 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> writes:
>> If anyone actually likes that new behaviour, please make it
>> configurable.

LMI> After playing with it some more, I think it's more annoying than
LMI> useful.  I'll switch it back to the old behaviour.

Boo, that's taking candy away from the children after they already
licked it...  Maybe the buffer flashing is annoying to some, but I use
large fonts so screen real estate is very valuable.  How can I get this
effect of "zoom article buffer as would `C-x 1'" and be able to reverse
it back on a single key?

Ted

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> Boo, that's taking candy away from the children after they already
> licked it...  Maybe the buffer flashing is annoying to some, but I use
> large fonts so screen real estate is very valuable.  How can I get this
> effect of "zoom article buffer as would `C-x 1'" and be able to reverse
> it back on a single key?

Well, you can bind `h' in the summary buffer to do what `h' did for a
couple of days.

Or I can add yet another conf option.  :-)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Tibor Simko]

On Mon, 04 Oct 2010, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
> Boo, that's taking candy away from the children after they already
> licked it...  Maybe the buffer flashing is annoying to some, but I use
> large fonts so screen real estate is very valuable.  How can I get
> this effect of "zoom article buffer as would `C-x 1'" and be able to
> reverse it back on a single key?

FWIW, I kind of liked the new behaviour as well.  Could it be made
configurable and/or plugged somewhere else?

Best regards
-- 
Tibor Simko

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 18:54:50 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> Boo, that's taking candy away from the children after they already
>> licked it...  Maybe the buffer flashing is annoying to some, but I use
>> large fonts so screen real estate is very valuable.  How can I get this
>> effect of "zoom article buffer as would `C-x 1'" and be able to reverse
>> it back on a single key?

LMI> Well, you can bind `h' in the summary buffer to do what `h' did for a
LMI> couple of days.

I'm saying I think it's generally useful.  So bring it back as a
standalone function, if possible.  Was it very different from the
current `h' or can I just make a `C-u h' version that switches on the
universal prefix?

LMI> Or I can add yet another conf option.  :-)

No, please.  We're only human...

Ted

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> I'm saying I think it's generally useful.  So bring it back as a
> standalone function, if possible.  Was it very different from the
> current `h' or can I just make a `C-u h' version that switches on the
> universal prefix?

It only differs in what window conf is selects.

> LMI> Or I can add yet another conf option.  :-)
>
> No, please.  We're only human...

Haha!  Too late!

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: [gnus git] branch master updated: =1= Change the `h' command to only show the article buffer.

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:28:00 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
LMI> Or I can add yet another conf option.  :-)
>> No, please.  We're only human...
LMI> Haha!  Too late!

Considering how many variables and code you've *removed* in the last few
weeks, I'm not complaining at all.

Ted