New nnimap and auto-subscribe

New nnimap and auto-subscribe

[Julien Danjou]

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Hi,

I have the following settings:

(setq gnus-subscribe-newsgroup-method 'gnus-subscribe-alphabetically)
(setq gnus-default-subscribed-newsgroups t)
(setq gnus-auto-subscribed-groups
      "^nnml\\|^nnfolder\\|^nnmbox\\|^nnmh\\|^nnbabyl\\|^nnmaildir\\|^nnimap")

So that when a new box appears on my nnimap server, it gets subscribed
automagically. It seems to not work anymore.

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Julien Danjou
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Re: New nnimap and auto-subscribe

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:

> (setq gnus-subscribe-newsgroup-method 'gnus-subscribe-alphabetically)
> (setq gnus-default-subscribed-newsgroups t)
> (setq gnus-auto-subscribed-groups
>       "^nnml\\|^nnfolder\\|^nnmbox\\|^nnmh\\|^nnbabyl\\|^nnmaildir\\|^nnimap")
>
> So that when a new box appears on my nnimap server, it gets subscribed
> automagically. It seems to not work anymore.

Hm...  I wonder whether that's true for all methods.  Gnus doesn't issue
`gnus-request-list' on all the methods any more, so how does it get new
groups?

I don't think it does.  Only `F' triggers loading of the complete group
lists from servers now.  That means that Gnus handles IMAP and NNTP
groups consistently now, which it probably didn't do before.  But it
would be nice if it did discover IMAP groups more automatically than
NNTP groups...  hm...

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: New nnimap and auto-subscribe

[Julien Danjou]

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On Tue, Sep 21 2010, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> Hm...  I wonder whether that's true for all methods.  Gnus doesn't issue
> `gnus-request-list' on all the methods any more, so how does it get new
> groups?
>
> I don't think it does.  Only `F' triggers loading of the complete group
> lists from servers now.  That means that Gnus handles IMAP and NNTP
> groups consistently now, which it probably didn't do before.  But it
> would be nice if it did discover IMAP groups more automatically than
> NNTP groups...  hm...

'F' does not work either. When I go in the server buffer with ^ from
*Group*, I see new groups (new IMAP folders) but 'F' did not find them.

I hope 'F' does not use LSUB to discover new folders…?

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Julien Danjou
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Re: New nnimap and auto-subscribe

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:

> 'F' does not work either. When I go in the server buffer with ^ from
> *Group*, I see new groups (new IMAP folders) but 'F' did not find them.

Yeah, I wasn't sure how to implement this.  What I really want is a
command that says "give me the new IMAP mailboxes since <date>", but
that doesn't seem to exist.

I've now implemented a `nnimap-request-newgroups' that should work OK,
though, but isn't blindingly fast...

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(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: New nnimap and auto-subscribe

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:30:45 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:
>> 'F' does not work either. When I go in the server buffer with ^ from
>> *Group*, I see new groups (new IMAP folders) but 'F' did not find them.

LMI> Yeah, I wasn't sure how to implement this.  What I really want is a
LMI> command that says "give me the new IMAP mailboxes since <date>", but
LMI> that doesn't seem to exist.

You could store the set of groups in .newsrc.eld with a timestamp.

Ted

Re: New nnimap and auto-subscribe

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> You could store the set of groups in .newsrc.eld with a timestamp.

That's sort of what happens now.  Kinda.  When you kill groups, they're
still registered there, so I think the current way of doing it should
work.

I wanted to avoid a "LIST" command, because it's slow-ish on some
servers, but I don't think there's a way to avoid that.  Anyway, it's
only called on Gnus startup and on `F', so it should be no big deal.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: New nnimap and auto-subscribe

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:59:17 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> You could store the set of groups in .newsrc.eld with a timestamp.

LMI> That's sort of what happens now.  Kinda.  When you kill groups, they're
LMI> still registered there, so I think the current way of doing it should
LMI> work.

Oh, I thought killed groups were removed from the list.  That will work then.

LMI> I wanted to avoid a "LIST" command, because it's slow-ish on some
LMI> servers, but I don't think there's a way to avoid that.  Anyway, it's
LMI> only called on Gnus startup and on `F', so it should be no big deal.

It's reasonable IMO and users can turn it off.

Ted