Morse decoding

Morse decoding

[Simon Josefsson]

Gnus in CVS now decodes morse encoded messages if you press `W m'.

.--./.-./---/-.../.-/-.../.-../-.-- -/..../. --/---/.../- -.-./.-./../-/../-.-./.-/.-.. ..-././.-/-/..-/.-./. .-/-../-.././-.. .../../-./-.-./. .-./---/-/-....-/.----/...--/.-.-.- ---.../-....-)

Re: Morse decoding

[Norbert Koch]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> Gnus in CVS now decodes morse encoded messages if you press `W m'.

Ah, even more fun with noisy signature seperators :-)

norbert.

Re: Morse decoding

[Jorge Godoy]

Norbert Koch <nk@viteno.net> writes:

> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>
>> Gnus in CVS now decodes morse encoded messages if you press `W m'.
>
> Ah, even more fun with noisy signature seperators :-)

It's funny seeing it with diacriticals. :-)

One looks at the text and see some accented letters :-)

./.../-/. é ..-/-- ./-..-/./--/.--./.-../--- ./-- .--./---/.-./-/..-/--./..-ê.../.-.-.- -.--.-/-/..../../... ../... .-/-. ./-..-/.-/--/.--./.-../. ../-. .--./---/.-./-/..-/--./..-/./..././-.--.-


See you, 
-- 
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Re: Morse decoding

[John A. Martin]

>>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson
>>>>> "Morse decoding"
>>>>>  Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:16:54 +0100
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    Simon> Gnus in CVS now decodes morse encoded messages if you press
    Simon> `W m'.

    Simon> .--./.-./---/-.../.-/-.../.-../-.-- -/..../. --/---/.../-
    Simon> -.-./.-./../-/../-.-./.-/.-.. ..-././.-/-/..-/.-./. .-/-../-.././-.. .../../-./-.-./. .-./---/-/-....-/.----/...--/.-.-.-
    Simon> ---.../-....-)

,----[ *backtrace* ]
| Signaling: (void-function unmorse-region)
|   unmorse-region(1 393)
|   gnus-summary-morse-message(nil)
|   call-interactively(gnus-summary-morse-message)
`----

,----[ extract from cvs status ]
|               Up-To-Date  6.1675      ChangeLog
|               Up-To-Date  6.235       gnus-sum.el
`----

        jam

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Re: Morse decoding

[Simon Josefsson]

jam@jamux.com (John A. Martin) writes:

> ,----[ *backtrace* ]
> | Signaling: (void-function unmorse-region)
> |   unmorse-region(1 393)
> |   gnus-summary-morse-message(nil)
> |   call-interactively(gnus-summary-morse-message)
> `----

Do you use XEmacs?  If so, you need the "misc-games" package.  I
updated the XEmacs package requirements section in the manual, thanks.

Re: Morse decoding

[Karl Pflästerer]

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Simon Josefsson <- jas@extundo.com wrote:

> Gnus in CVS now decodes morse encoded messages if you press `W m'.

Cool. Thanx.

> .--./.-./---/-.../.-/-.../.-../-.-- -/..../. --/---/.../-
> -.-./.-./../-/../-.-./.-/.-.. ..-././.-/-/..-/.-./. .-/-../-.././-.. 
> .../../-./-.-./. .-./---/-/-....-/.----/...--/.-.-.- ---.../-....-)

.. -/..../../-./-.- -.--/---/..- .-/.-./. .-./../--./..../-/.-.-.-

bye
   KP

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whether you pass whatever-a-value-is or wherever-whatever-is-a-value-is
whenever you pass an argument to a function.  (Call it the Shakira
theory. :)"       [Erik Naggum in cll über call-by-value und call-by-reference]

Re: Morse decoding

[Martin Monsorno]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> Gnus in CVS now decodes morse encoded messages if you press `W m'.
>
> .--./.-./---/-.../.-/-.../.-../-.-- -/..../. --/---/.../- -.-./.-./../-/../-.-./.-/.-.. ..-././.-/-/..-/.-./. .-/-../-.././-.. .../../-./-.-./. .-./---/-/-....-/.----/...--/.-.-.- ---.../-....-)
>

Hmm, it only says "Symbol's function definition is void:
unmorse-region" to me on xemacs 21.4.9.


-- 
Martin

Re: Morse decoding

[Simon Josefsson]

Martin Monsorno <monsorno-nospam@gmx.de> writes:

> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>
>> Gnus in CVS now decodes morse encoded messages if you press `W m'.
>>
>> .--./.-./---/-.../.-/-.../.-../-.-- -/..../. --/---/.../- -.-./.-./../-/../-.-./.-/.-.. ..-././.-/-/..-/.-./. .-/-../-.././-.. .../../-./-.-./. .-./---/-/-....-/.----/...--/.-.-.- ---.../-....-)
>>
>
> Hmm, it only says "Symbol's function definition is void:
> unmorse-region" to me on xemacs 21.4.9.

Does it help to install the "misc-games" XEmacs package for morse.el
(and rot13.el, and maybe other things too)?

Re: Morse decoding

[Ilpo Nyyssönen]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

>> Hmm, it only says "Symbol's function definition is void:
>> unmorse-region" to me on xemacs 21.4.9.
>
> Does it help to install the "misc-games" XEmacs package for morse.el
> (and rot13.el, and maybe other things too)?

Loading morse is also needed.

-- 
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Re: Morse decoding

[Simon Josefsson]

iny+news@iki.fi (Ilpo Nyyssönen) writes:

> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>
>>> Hmm, it only says "Symbol's function definition is void:
>>> unmorse-region" to me on xemacs 21.4.9.
>>
>> Does it help to install the "misc-games" XEmacs package for morse.el
>> (and rot13.el, and maybe other things too)?
>
> Loading morse is also needed.

I think the functions should be autoloaded, as they are in Emacs.
I'll send a patch, thanks.

Re: Morse decoding

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> In <ilur8diu4m7.fsf@latte.josefsson.org>
>>>>>	Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> wrote:

> I think the functions should be autoloaded, as they are in Emacs.
> I'll send a patch, thanks.

Unfortunately, unmorse-region is not autoloaded in Emacs 20 as well.
-- 
.---/.-./.----/-.-./.-./-..

Re: Morse decoding

[Simon Josefsson]

Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:

>>>>>> In <ilur8diu4m7.fsf@latte.josefsson.org>
>>>>>>	Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> wrote:
>
>> I think the functions should be autoloaded, as they are in Emacs.
>> I'll send a patch, thanks.
>
> Unfortunately, unmorse-region is not autoloaded in Emacs 20 as well.

Ouch.  Ok, the code now only proceeds if it can require morse.

Re: Morse decoding

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> In <ilusmxxsxnz.fsf@latte.josefsson.org>
>>>>>	Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> wrote:

>> Unfortunately, unmorse-region is not autoloaded in Emacs 20 as
>> well.

> Ouch.  Ok, the code now only proceeds if it can require morse.

Thanks.  But the byte-compiler still complains about it.  Why
don't we add the autoload for that function to Gnus? :)

...emacs-20.7 -batch -q -no-site-file -l ./dgnushack.el -f dgnushack-compile
[...]
Wrote /Work/gnus/lisp/gnus-start.elc
While compiling the end of the data in file /Work/gnus/lisp/gnus-sum.el:
  ** the function unmorse-region is not known to be defined.
Wrote /Work/gnus/lisp/gnus-sum.elc
-- 
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>

Re: Morse decoding

[Simon Josefsson]

Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@ga.sony.co.jp> writes:

>>>>>> In <ilusmxxsxnz.fsf@latte.josefsson.org>
>>>>>>	Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Unfortunately, unmorse-region is not autoloaded in Emacs 20 as
>>> well.
>
>> Ouch.  Ok, the code now only proceeds if it can require morse.
>
> Thanks.  But the byte-compiler still complains about it.  Why
> don't we add the autoload for that function to Gnus? :)

Ah, yes, that's a better idea.  Added, thanks.

Re: Morse decoding

[Reiner Steib]

On Tue, Nov 19 2002, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

> Unfortunately, unmorse-region is not autoloaded in Emacs 20 as well.
> -- 
> .---/.-./.----/-.-./.-./-..

`W m' decodes the signature separator:

,----[ W m ]
| Unfortunately, unmorsetregion is not autoloaded in Emacs 20 as welle
| m 
| jr1crd
`----

Bye, Reiner.
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      (o o)
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Re: Morse decoding

[Simon Josefsson]

Reiner Steib <4uce.02.r.steib@gmx.net> writes:

> On Tue, Nov 19 2002, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, unmorse-region is not autoloaded in Emacs 20 as well.
>> -- 
>> .---/.-./.----/-.-./.-./-..
>
> `W m' decodes the signature separator:
>
> ,----[ W m ]
> | Unfortunately, unmorsetregion is not autoloaded in Emacs 20 as welle
> | m 
> | jr1crd
> `----

Should Gnus really exclude this case?  It seems like doing too much
work, there are two cases; one where "-- " was intended as a morse
character, and it will be translated; one where "-- " was the
signature separator, in which case it is translated into 'm' so it
adds some garbage.  The signature separator is not the only sitation,
all ASCII art will be garbage.  IMHO morse decoding should morse
decode everything that even remotely looks like morse and let the user
filter out the noise.

Re: Morse decoding

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> In <ilubs4ksd43.fsf@latte.josefsson.org>
>>>>>	Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> wrote:

> IMHO morse decoding should morse decode everything that even
> remotely looks like morse and let the user filter out the noise.

Actually, I used to do morse QSO in a terrible noise. :-p
-- 
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>

Re: Morse decoding

[Reiner Steib]

On Wed, Nov 20 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote:

> Reiner Steib <4uce.02.r.steib@gmx.net> writes:
[...]
>> `W m' decodes the signature separator:
[...]
> Should Gnus really exclude this case?  It seems like doing too much
> work, [...]

If it's not trivial, please don't care about my comment. ;-)

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: Morse decoding

[Martin Monsorno]

Martin Monsorno <monsorno-nospam@gmx.de> writes:

> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundoecom> writes:
>
>> Gnus in CVS now decodes morse encoded messages if you press `W m'e
>>
>> probably the most critical feature added since rot-13. :-)
>>
>
> Hmm, it only says "Symbol's function definition is void:
> unmorsetregion" to me on xemacs 21e4e9e
>

As you can see it now works perfectly out of the box.  And, indeed,
rot-13 is obsolete, now ...


-- 
Martin

Re: Morse decoding

[Christoph Conrad]

Hi Simon,

    > Gnus in CVS now decodes morse encoded messages if you press `W
    > m'.

Great! The quotient of coolness and usefulness reaches a new maximum
;-)

For german users the following snippet might be helpful to de/encode
umlauts:

,----
| (require 'morse)
| ;; capital letters are converted to downcase
| (add-to-list 'morse-code '("ä" . ".-/."))
| (add-to-list 'morse-code '("ö" . "---/."))
| (add-to-list 'morse-code '("ü" . "..-/."))
| (add-to-list 'morse-code '("ß" . ".../..."))
`----

Best regards,
cu, -cc-
-- 
-.-./---/--/.--./..-/-/./.-./... .-/.-./.
..-/..././.-.././.../.../.-.-.- -/...././-.-- -.-./.-/-.
---/-./.-../-.-- --./../...-/. -.--/---/..-
.-/-./.../.--/./.-./.../.-.-.- .--./.-/-.../.-../---
.--./../-.-./.-/.../.../---

Re: Morse decoding

[Mark Trettin]

* On: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:54:31 +0100 Christoph Conrad writes:

[...]

> For german users the following snippet might be helpful to de/encode
> umlauts:

Kewl. Thanks.

[...]

Bye

	 Mark
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Re: Morse decoding

[Christoph Conrad]

Hi Mark,

    > Kewl. Thanks.

On several web pages i found that german umlauts don't need to be
transcribed as two character sequences, there are already unique
translations to morse code:

(add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ä" . ".-.-"))
(add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ö" . "---."))
(add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ü" . "..--"))
;; transcribe to "ss"
(add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ß" . ".../..."))

As you see i escape the characters now, otherwise e.g. "ü" is
interpreted as "\xf7c".

Best regards,
cu, -cc-
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Re: Morse decoding

[Mark Trettin]

* On: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 12:37:06 +0100 Christoph Conrad writes:
> On several web pages i found that german umlauts don't need to be
> transcribed as two character sequences, there are already unique
> translations to morse code:

> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ä" . ".-.-"))
> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ö" . "---."))
> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ü" . "..--"))
> ;; transcribe to "ss"
> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ß" . ".../..."))

This is true, but it should be incorporated in morse.el, so everybody
is able to de-/encode it.

[...]


Bye

	 Mark
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Re: Morse decoding

[Christoph Garbers]

* Christoph Conrad <cco@ivu.de>:

> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ä" . ".-.-"))
> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ö" . "---."))
> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ü" . "..--"))
> ;; transcribe to "ss"
> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ß" . ".../..."))
> 
> As you see i escape the characters now, otherwise e.g. "ü" is
> interpreted as "\xf7c".

Thanks!

Christoph

Re: Morse decoding

[Martin Thornquist]

[ Christoph Conrad ]

> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ä" . ".-.-"))
> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ö" . "---."))
> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ü" . "..--"))
> ;; transcribe to "ss"
> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ß" . ".../..."))

Norwegian:

(add-to-list 'morse-code '("\æ" . ".-.-"))
(add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ø" . "---."))
(add-to-list 'morse-code '("\å" . ".--.-"))

æ and ø clashes with ä and ö, but those are pronounced more or less
the same so it doesn't matter that much. unmorse-region doesn't seem
to mind, either, it just translates to the last defined.


Martin
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Re: Morse decoding

[Christoph Conrad]

Hi Martin,

    > æ and ø clashes with ä and ö

From my other posting:

    > As you see i escape the characters now, otherwise e.g. "ü" is
    > interpreted as "\xf7c".

I presume that this extended character code has something to do with
unicode? Mule? To have only one byte for encoding different chars
(meaning of the byte) results in those clashes, IMHO.

Best regards,
cu, -cc-
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Re: Morse decoding

[Mark Trettin]

* On: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 22:47:49 +0100 Christoph Conrad writes:
>> æ and ø clashes with ä and ö

[...]

> I presume that this extended character code has something to do with
> unicode? Mule? 

No, the Morse-codes of æ and ä resp. ø and ö are the same.

[...]

Bye

	 Mark
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Re: Morse decoding

[Simon Josefsson]

Christoph Conrad <cco@ivu.de> writes:

> On several web pages i found that german umlauts don't need to be
> transcribed as two character sequences, there are already unique
> translations to morse code:
>
> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ä" . ".-.-"))
> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ö" . "---."))
> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ü" . "..--"))
> ;; transcribe to "ss"
> (add-to-list 'morse-code '("\ß" . ".../..."))

morse.el in Emacs CVS HEAD should have these and some other now.

Re: Morse decoding

[Simon Josefsson]

Maciej Matysiak <phoner.ding@blah.pl> writes:

> On the 18th of November 2002 at 16:16, Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> wrote:
>
>> Gnus in CVS now decodes morse encoded messages if you press `W m'e
>
> it also changes any '-' into 't' and '.' into 'e' in the mail's header ;)
> we need gnus-narrow-to-body somewhere there, i think.

Added, thanks for the suggestion.

Re: Morse decoding

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> Gnus in CVS now decodes morse encoded messages if you press `W m'.

Yay!

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