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From: Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr>
Subject: Re: Please unbundle the custom and widget libraries from qgnus.
Date: 22 Sep 1997 18:28:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kigafh5gvot.fsf@jagor.srce.hr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of "22 Sep 1997 11:25:12 -0400"

Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:

> Primarilly because MULE breaks ISO Latin-1 which works flawlessly in GNU
> Emacs 19.34 and barely works at all in GNU Emacs 20.1.  Assuming for the
> moment that you are not a developer/tester, which would you prefer to use,
> a version of GNU Emacs that works, or one that manages to limp along and
> occasionally breaks your files?

I don't think MULE breaks ISO Latin-1.  It makes it harder to use,
maybe.  Anyway, you mentioned Erik as an example -- but Erik *is* the
one who calls out to everyone to switch to 20.1.  Even with MULE, it's 
still better than 19.34.  One of the reasons why it's better
(according to Erik) is Custom.

> Hrvoje> My point is that one should not use MULE as an excuse to stick with
> Hrvoje> Emacs 19.34b forever (and refusing to acknowledge Custom, etc.)  Is
> Hrvoje> that what you intend to do?
> 
> But you see, MULE is exactly that.  If Erik's YAGE project fails to pan
> out, and the 19.35 release never appears, there will be many who freeze at
> 19.34 forever, because that is how long it will be before RMS makes MULE a
> compile time option as it is with GNU XEmacs.

I don't think MULE is as bad as that, but you're free to make your own 
choices.  I hope that other package developers will not give up Custom 
because of Stallmans idiotic decisions.


P.S.
`GNU XEmacs' makes me gag.  It's just XEmacs.  Or we fight back with
`FSF Emacs', which makes Stallman gag. :-)

-- 
Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia
--------------------------------+--------------------------------
I'm a Lisp variable -- bind me!


  parent reply	other threads:[~1997-09-22 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <rjpvq5ob9y.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.dk>
1997-09-19 15:18 ` Jason R Mastaler
1997-09-19 16:17   ` Hrvoje Niksic
1997-09-19 16:20   ` Per Abrahamsen
1997-09-19 16:24   ` Jan Vroonhof
     [not found] ` <x7sov15et2.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-19 19:53   ` Hrvoje Niksic
     [not found]     ` <x7en6k7ls1.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-20 19:49       ` Hrvoje Niksic
     [not found]         ` <x767rv5wue.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-21  1:24           ` Hrvoje Niksic
     [not found]             ` <x7n2l7uxmd.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-21  4:36               ` Hrvoje Niksic
     [not found]                 ` <x7hgbewv10.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-21 16:12                   ` Hrvoje Niksic
1997-09-21 16:39                     ` Per Abrahamsen
1997-09-21 12:48             ` Per Abrahamsen
1997-09-21  4:15       ` Karl Anderson
1997-09-19 20:04   ` Lars Balker Rasmussen
1997-09-19 22:27   ` Jason R Mastaler
1997-09-20  0:08     ` SL Baur
1997-09-20  1:06       ` Jason R Mastaler
1997-09-20  1:59         ` Yet Another Emacs Project (YAEP) Richard Coleman
     [not found]         ` <x7hgbg7m0l.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-20 12:09           ` Please unbundle the custom and widget libraries from qgnus Johan Danielsson
1997-09-20  0:52     ` Yet Another Emacs Project (YAEP) Richard Coleman
1997-09-20 18:27 ` Please unbundle the custom and widget libraries from qgnus Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]   ` <x7202j5wpc.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-21  1:15     ` Hrvoje Niksic
     [not found]       ` <x7raajuy5j.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-21  4:34         ` Hrvoje Niksic
     [not found]           ` <x7k9gawv71.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-21 16:10             ` Hrvoje Niksic
     [not found]               ` <x7soux2wx3.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-22 16:28                 ` Hrvoje Niksic [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <x790wpjjp8.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-22 19:15                     ` Hrvoje Niksic
     [not found]                       ` <x73emx3rex.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-22 23:47                         ` Hrvoje Niksic
1997-09-25 21:29                   ` Jason R Mastaler
1997-09-26  6:14                     ` Hrvoje Niksic
1997-09-21 16:44             ` Alan Shutko
     [not found]               ` <x7pvq12wso.fsf_-_@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-22 23:37                 ` Gnus 5.5 and MBSK Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]                   ` <x7en6gbxyr.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-09-23  4:46                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1997-09-22  7:10         ` Please unbundle the custom and widget libraries from qgnus Kai Grossjohann
1997-09-21  2:04     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]       ` <6fzpp7kocq.fsf@half.dna.lth.se>
1997-09-21 16:31         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1997-09-22 15:52           ` William M. Perry
1997-09-22 17:14             ` Hrvoje Niksic
1997-09-22 18:02               ` Per Abrahamsen
1997-09-22 23:38             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]               ` <oqvhyrb2l3.fsf@icule.progiciels-bpi.ca>
1997-10-21 15:11                 ` Kai Grossjohann
1997-10-21 16:12                   ` To autoconf or not to autoconf (Was Re: Please unbundle the custom and widget libraries from qgnus.) William M. Perry
1998-02-07 20:27                   ` Please unbundle the custom and widget libraries from qgnus François Pinard
1997-10-24 22:52                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1997-10-25  0:57                   ` Matt Simmons
1997-10-30 12:55                   ` Hrvoje Niksic
1997-10-30 15:11                     ` William M. Perry
1997-10-30 15:23                       ` Hrvoje Niksic
1997-10-30 15:46                         ` William M. Perry
1997-09-21 12:02     ` Per Abrahamsen

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