* Strangeness with groups beginning with numbers?
@ 1997-10-02 20:30 Bruce Stephens
[not found] ` <x7lo0bkc2n.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-10-03 22:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Bruce Stephens @ 1997-10-02 20:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
I read the 3dfx groups, and they seem to be treated differently from
other groups. When I'm plugged, and I do a "g", the number of
articles in those groups remains reported as "*" (although other
groups get a number). When I'm unplugged, "g" updates the article
count as I'd expect.
At work, I read the groups from 3dfx's news server, so I could believe
that something with that is different, but at home they're from the
same server as all the rest of the groups.
Does anybody else see this, or do things work OK for everybody else,
and should I therefore investigate my ISP's server?
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* Re: Strangeness with groups beginning with numbers?
[not found] ` <x7lo0bkc2n.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
@ 1997-10-03 12:51 ` Bruce Stephens
1997-10-03 15:40 ` Karl Kleinpaste
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From: Bruce Stephens @ 1997-10-03 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:
> >>>>> "BS" == Bruce Stephens <bruce@cenderis.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
> BS> I read the 3dfx groups, and they seem to be treated differently from
> BS> other groups.
>
> That might be because a "3dfx" heirarchy is illegal: it starts with a
> numeric, and numerics are reserved for articles.
Fair enough. I thought it might be that. How about allowing name
components which contain at least one non-numeric?
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* Re: Strangeness with groups beginning with numbers?
[not found] ` <x7lo0bkc2n.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1997-10-03 12:51 ` Bruce Stephens
@ 1997-10-03 15:40 ` Karl Kleinpaste
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Karl Kleinpaste @ 1997-10-03 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
Bruce Stephens <bruce@cenderis.demon.co.uk> writes:
>> I read the 3dfx groups, and they seem to be treated differently from
>> other groups.
Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:
> That might be because a "3dfx" heirarchy is illegal: it starts with a
> numeric, and numerics are reserved for articles.
Actually, digits, including leading digits, in newsgroup name
components has a long history, and there are quite a few in typical
usage now. From my active file's Basic 8 Hierarchies, via
"egrep '\.[0-9]'":
alt.0d alt.12hr
alt.1d alt.23is.strange
alt.2600 alt.2600hz
alt.2d alt.3d
alt.3d.misc alt.3d.rhino
alt.3d.sirds alt.3d.studio
alt.3djam-tv alt.atari.2600vcs
alt.binaries.3d.lightwave alt.binaries.3d.truespace
alt.binaries.multimedia.3-stooges alt.binaries.pictures.12hr
alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.0-day alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
alt.comedy.slapstick.3-stooges alt.comics.2000ad
alt.comp.4d alt.consciousness.4th-way
alt.culture.us.1960s alt.culture.us.1970s
alt.culture.us.1980s alt.culture.us.1990s
alt.flame.dr-tom.4d.vamps.acid alt.lang.4gl
alt.magazine.2600hz alt.music.4-track
alt.music.4ad alt.religion.christian.20-something
alt.tv.3djam-tv alt.tv.3rd-rock
alt.tv.7th-heaven comp.bugs.2bsd
comp.bugs.4bsd comp.bugs.4bsd.ucb-fixes
comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio comp.lang.basic.visual.3rdparty
comp.os.msdos.4dos comp.sys.3b1
comp.sys.amstrad.8bit comp.sys.atari.8bit
comp.sys.nsc.32k comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.announce
comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc comp.unix.pc-clone.16bit
comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit rec.autos.4x4
rec.games.video.3do rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1950s
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1970s
rec.photo.equipment.35mm
And there's a fair pile from localized hierarchies.
INN is perfectly happy to have both top-level hierarchy names as well
as individual group names within hierarchies to have digits; I just
experimented with creating a local group "4x4.general" and posting a
test message to it -- no problem.
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* Re: Strangeness with groups beginning with numbers?
1997-10-02 20:30 Strangeness with groups beginning with numbers? Bruce Stephens
[not found] ` <x7lo0bkc2n.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
@ 1997-10-03 22:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1997-10-04 12:05 ` Bruce Stephens
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-10-03 22:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
Bruce Stephens <bruce@cenderis.demon.co.uk> writes:
> I read the 3dfx groups, and they seem to be treated differently from
> other groups. When I'm plugged, and I do a "g", the number of
> articles in those groups remains reported as "*" (although other
> groups get a number).
Hm. What's your `gnus-ignored-newsgroups' variable?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Strangeness with groups beginning with numbers?
1997-10-03 22:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1997-10-04 12:05 ` Bruce Stephens
1997-10-12 14:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Bruce Stephens @ 1997-10-04 12:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
larsi@gnus.org said:
> Hm. What's your `gnus-ignored-newsgroups' variable?
I haven't touched that:
gnus-ignored-newsgroups's value is "^to\\.\\|^[0-9. ]+ \\|[][\"#'()]"
-- a variable declared in Lisp.
Which does match "342.71 ", but doesn't match "3dfx.products ", say.
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* Re: Strangeness with groups beginning with numbers?
1997-10-04 12:05 ` Bruce Stephens
@ 1997-10-12 14:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-10-12 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
Bruce Stephens <bruce@cenderis.demon.co.uk> writes:
> > Hm. What's your `gnus-ignored-newsgroups' variable?
>
> I haven't touched that:
>
> gnus-ignored-newsgroups's value is "^to\\.\\|^[0-9. ]+ \\|[][\"#'()]"
> -- a variable declared in Lisp.
>
> Which does match "342.71 ", but doesn't match "3dfx.products ", say.
In that case, I can't really explain it.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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