Re: And, bump again.

Re: And, bump again.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:

> * I would like to remove the check for virtual-ness in
>   gnus-warp-to-article.
>
> * I believe that removal to be OK.  I'll test it here, of course, and
>   I'm a daily user of warping.

I'm not familiar with the warping stuff, so somebody who uses this
should respond to this...

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Re: And, bump again.

[Andy Moreton]

On Sun 03 Mar 2013, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
>
>> * I would like to remove the check for virtual-ness in
>>   gnus-warp-to-article.
>>
>> * I believe that removal to be OK.  I'll test it here, of course, and
>>   I'm a daily user of warping.
>
> I'm not familiar with the warping stuff, so somebody who uses this
> should respond to this...

...and while this is being worked on, they could fix the manual. The
term "warp" is used, but never defined, leaving the user with no idea as
to it's purpose.

    AndyM

Re: And, bump again.

[David Rogers]

Andy Moreton <andrewjmoreton@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sun 03 Mar 2013, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
>
>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
>>
>>> * I would like to remove the check for virtual-ness in
>>>   gnus-warp-to-article.
>>>
>>> * I believe that removal to be OK.  I'll test it here, of course, and
>>>   I'm a daily user of warping.
>>
>> I'm not familiar with the warping stuff, so somebody who uses this
>> should respond to this...
>
> ...and while this is being worked on, they could fix the manual. The
> term "warp" is used, but never defined, leaving the user with no idea as
> to it's purpose.


Sounds like somebody was trying to make a cute "Star Trek" reference to
travelling a long distance across the galaxy in a short time. Certainly not
the kind of thing that can go unexplained - probably better to use a
normal word such as "jump". 

-- 
David

Re: And, bump again.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Andy Moreton <andrewjmoreton@gmail.com> writes:

> ...and while this is being worked on, they could fix the manual. The
> term "warp" is used, but never defined, leaving the user with no idea as
> to it's purpose.

I've now changed the manual and the doc string.

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Re: And, bump again.

[Dave Abrahams]

on Sun Mar 03 2013, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi-AT-gnus.org> wrote:

> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
>
>> * I would like to remove the check for virtual-ness in
>>   gnus-warp-to-article.
>>
>> * I believe that removal to be OK.  I'll test it here, of course, and
>>   I'm a daily user of warping.
>
> I'm not familiar with the warping stuff, so somebody who uses this
> should respond to this...

OK, how about this;  I'm going to make one more post with "warping" in
the title, and if nobody answers in a week, we can assume I'm the only
one "who uses this" enough to respond.

-- 
Dave Abrahams

Re: And, bump again.

[Andy Moreton]

On Sun 03 Mar 2013, Dave Abrahams wrote:

> on Sun Mar 03 2013, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi-AT-gnus.org> wrote:
>
>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
>>
>>> * I would like to remove the check for virtual-ness in
>>>   gnus-warp-to-article.
>>>
>>> * I believe that removal to be OK.  I'll test it here, of course, and
>>>   I'm a daily user of warping.
>>
>> I'm not familiar with the warping stuff, so somebody who uses this
>> should respond to this...
>
> OK, how about this;  I'm going to make one more post with "warping" in
> the title, and if nobody answers in a week, we can assume I'm the only
> one "who uses this" enough to respond.

Please fix the manual and the help string for `gnus-warp-to-article' to
describe what this function actually does. it is difficult to tell if
this would be useful or not without meaningful documentation.

    AndyM

Re: And, bump again.

[Dave Abrahams]

on Sun Mar 03 2013, Andy Moreton <andrewjmoreton-AT-gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun 03 Mar 2013, Dave Abrahams wrote:
>
>> on Sun Mar 03 2013, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi-AT-gnus.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> * I would like to remove the check for virtual-ness in
>>>>   gnus-warp-to-article.
>>>>
>>>> * I believe that removal to be OK.  I'll test it here, of course, and
>>>>   I'm a daily user of warping.
>>>
>>> I'm not familiar with the warping stuff, so somebody who uses this
>>> should respond to this...
>>
>> OK, how about this;  I'm going to make one more post with "warping" in
>> the title, and if nobody answers in a week, we can assume I'm the only
>> one "who uses this" enough to respond.
>
> Please fix the manual and the help string for `gnus-warp-to-article' to
> describe what this function actually does. it is difficult to tell if
> this would be useful or not without meaningful documentation.

,----[ C-h f gnus-warp-to-article RET ]
| gnus-warp-to-article is an interactive compiled Lisp function in
| `gnus-int.el'.
| 
| (gnus-warp-to-article)
| 
| Warps from an article in a virtual group to the article in its
| real group. Does nothing on a real group.
| 
| [back]
`----

I think replacing "Warps" with "Jump" would make this docstring
perfectly descriptive.  After that change, does the docstring leave you
with any questions?

-- 
Dave Abrahams

Re: And, bump again.

[Andy Moreton]

On Mon 04 Mar 2013, Dave Abrahams wrote:
>
> ,----[ C-h f gnus-warp-to-article RET ]
> | gnus-warp-to-article is an interactive compiled Lisp function in
> | `gnus-int.el'.
> | 
> | (gnus-warp-to-article)
> | 
> | Warps from an article in a virtual group to the article in its
> | real group. Does nothing on a real group.
> | 
> | [back]
> `----
>
> I think replacing "Warps" with "Jump" would make this docstring
> perfectly descriptive.  After that change, does the docstring leave you
> with any questions?

That sounds fine. Why wasn't jump used in the name of the function ?

    AndyM

Re: And, bump again.

[Dave Abrahams]

on Sun Mar 03 2013, Dave Abrahams <dave-AT-boostpro.com> wrote:

> on Sun Mar 03 2013, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi-AT-gnus.org> wrote:
>
>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
>>
>>> * I would like to remove the check for virtual-ness in
>>>   gnus-warp-to-article.
>>>
>>> * I believe that removal to be OK.  I'll test it here, of course, and
>>>   I'm a daily user of warping.
>>
>> I'm not familiar with the warping stuff, so somebody who uses this
>> should respond to this...
>
> OK, how about this;  I'm going to make one more post with "warping" in
> the title, and if nobody answers in a week, we can assume I'm the only
> one "who uses this" enough to respond.

Heh, I finally found a way around this that doesn't require the change.
I just derived a virtual group type from nndoc.

-- 
Dave Abrahams