* Reply in mailing lists
@ 1999-12-10 13:52 Jochen Lillich
1999-12-10 13:58 ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-12-10 14:08 ` Shaun Lipscombe
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From: Jochen Lillich @ 1999-12-10 13:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi!
In mailing list groups, how can I make gnus follow up only to the list
address (configured with "to-list" parameter) instead of replying to
both list and sender addresses?
Thanks,
Jochen
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* Re: Reply in mailing lists
1999-12-10 13:52 Reply in mailing lists Jochen Lillich
@ 1999-12-10 13:58 ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-12-13 0:37 ` Brian May
1999-12-14 10:08 ` Jochen Lillich
1999-12-10 14:08 ` Shaun Lipscombe
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From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1999-12-10 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Jochen Lillich <jochen@dynamis.de> writes:
> In mailing list groups, how can I make gnus follow up only to the list
> address (configured with "to-list" parameter) instead of replying to
> both list and sender addresses?
Use the `to-address' parameter instead of `to-list'.
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* Re: Reply in mailing lists
1999-12-10 13:52 Reply in mailing lists Jochen Lillich
1999-12-10 13:58 ` Per Abrahamsen
@ 1999-12-10 14:08 ` Shaun Lipscombe
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From: Shaun Lipscombe @ 1999-12-10 14:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
* "Jochen" == Jochen Lillich <jochen@dynamis.de> writes:
Jochen> Hi! In mailing list groups, how can I make gnus follow up
Jochen> only to the list address (configured with "to-list"
Jochen> parameter) instead of replying to both list and sender
Jochen> addresses?
I use to-address instead of to-list as a group parameter. I don't
know if this makes any difference:
`to-list'
Address used when doing a `a' in that group.
(to-list . "some@where.com")
It is totally ignored when doing a followup--except that if it is
present in a news group, you'll get mail group semantics when doing
`f'.
If you do an `a' command in a mail group and you have neither a
`to-list' group parameter nor a `to-address' group parameter, then
a `to-list' group parameter will be added automatically upon
sending the message if `gnus-add-to-list' is set to `t'.
If you do an `a' command in a mail group and you don't have a
`to-list' group parameter, one will be added automatically upon
sending the message.
So:
to-address is what you want, and if reply-to is set by the list, to
get logical `F' and `R' you will need to set an extra group parameter
broken-reply-to, I think its called.
HTH,
Shaun
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* Re: Reply in mailing lists
1999-12-10 13:58 ` Per Abrahamsen
@ 1999-12-13 0:37 ` Brian May
1999-12-13 9:02 ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-12-21 20:18 ` Kai Großjohann
1999-12-14 10:08 ` Jochen Lillich
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From: Brian May @ 1999-12-13 0:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Per" == Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:
Per> Jochen Lillich <jochen@dynamis.de> writes:
>> In mailing list groups, how can I make gnus follow up only to
>> the list address (configured with "to-list" parameter) instead
>> of replying to both list and sender addresses?
Per> Use the `to-address' parameter instead of `to-list'.
Is there any easy way in Gnus to do the following?
- followup a newsgroup message to the newsgroup and send a CC to
the original sender. eg, if original poster requests a CC.
- when used with a mail2news gateway, and to-address is set to the
address of the mailing list:
Is it possible to send a wide reply to everybody, *including* the
mailing list? Currently, for wide replies, the mailing list does not
appear (because the To: and CC: headers were removed by the mail2news
gateway). Required for the same reason.
What I would like is some function that combines "posting"[1] and
"mailing" into the one command. However, perhaps I am on the wrong
tangent altogether. Comments anyone?
I think this is related to the mail-copies-to header
feature - does that apply to the Followup command or the
Wide replies command? What is the default when no mail-copies-to
header is included? Can this default be overridden?
I hope that what I have said makes sense to somebody ;-)
If people are confused, please tell me, and I will start
again.
Note:
[1] By "posting" I mean:
- posting to the newsgroup if to-address is undefined.
- or, mailing a copy to the to-address.
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* Re: Reply in mailing lists
1999-12-13 0:37 ` Brian May
@ 1999-12-13 9:02 ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-12-13 23:31 ` Brian May
1999-12-21 20:18 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1999-12-13 9:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
You can use `C-c C-t' to add the "From" address to the list of
recipients.
There was some discussion recently about a similar command to add the
Cc's to the list of recipients, but it is not there now.
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* Re: Reply in mailing lists
1999-12-13 9:02 ` Per Abrahamsen
@ 1999-12-13 23:31 ` Brian May
1999-12-14 8:47 ` Per Abrahamsen
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From: Brian May @ 1999-12-13 23:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Per" == Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:
Per> You can use `C-c C-t' to add the "From" address to the list
Per> of recipients.
Thanks for you response. This helps for one situation: replying
to a mailing list.
However, unless I am mistaken, it doesn't seem to help in any of these
two situations.
>>>>> In article <t4ig0x7he0g.fsf@silas-1.cc.monash.edu.au>, Brian May <bmay@csse.monash.edu.au> writes:
Brian> - followup a newsgroup message to the newsgroup and send a
Brian> CC to the original sender. eg, if original poster requests
Brian> a CC.
I think the To field will prevent the news message from being
posted (unless I am mistaken).
Brian> - when used with a mail2news gateway, and to-address is set
Brian> to the address of the mailing list:
Actually, now I think about it, this probably would help. I was
thinking about it from the wrong perspective ;-)
I could create a followup message (F), then push C-c C-t,
and everything should setup as required.
Per> There was some discussion recently about a similar command to
Per> add the Cc's to the list of recipients, but it is not there
Per> now.
That would be good. I think CC would be much more important
then To.
Brian> I think this is related to the mail-copies-to header
Brian> feature - does that apply to the Followup command or the
Brian> Wide replies command? What is the default when no
Brian> mail-copies-to header is included? Can this default be
Brian> overridden?
Something that would interest me is knowing:
- I am reading a message in a group with the "to-address"
field set.
- This message has the field "mail-copies-to: always" (IIRC).
- I followup the message with 'F'.
Will a copy be sent to the original poster?
IMHO, "mail-copies-to" should override the setting for "to-address",
but would it?
--
Brian May <bmay@csse.monash.edu.au>
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* Re: Reply in mailing lists
1999-12-13 23:31 ` Brian May
@ 1999-12-14 8:47 ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-12-16 1:46 ` Brian May
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From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1999-12-14 8:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
Brian May <bmay@csse.monash.edu.au> writes:
> I think the To field will prevent the news message from being
> posted (unless I am mistaken).
You are mistaken.
> IMHO, "mail-copies-to" should override the setting for "to-address",
> but would it?
Try it.
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* Re: Reply in mailing lists
1999-12-10 13:58 ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-12-13 0:37 ` Brian May
@ 1999-12-14 10:08 ` Jochen Lillich
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From: Jochen Lillich @ 1999-12-14 10:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:
> Use the `to-address' parameter instead of `to-list'.
I'm totally embarrassed having found out that this is explained in the
info file in epic dimensions. I seem to be blindfolded sometimes...
Thanks!
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* Re: Reply in mailing lists
1999-12-14 8:47 ` Per Abrahamsen
@ 1999-12-16 1:46 ` Brian May
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From: Brian May @ 1999-12-16 1:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Per" == Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:
Per> Brian May <bmay@csse.monash.edu.au> writes:
>> I think the To field will prevent the news message from being
>> posted (unless I am mistaken).
Per> You are mistaken.
I am...? I will take your word for it ;-)
I assume then that if Gnus sees a "newsgroup" header, it will always
post it?
Similarly, if Gnus sees a "To", "Cc", or "Bcc" header, it
will always post it (independently of if it mails it or not).
>> IMHO, "mail-copies-to" should override the setting for
>> "to-address", but would it?
Per> Try it.
Amazing, it worked! Assuming my test wasn't flawed... (I don't
think it was).
So now I can summarize for mailing lists (and I assume the same holds
for all newsgroups) that have the "to-address" set:
narrow reply
- reply only to author - this is obvious
wide reply
- reply to everyone specified in original message (this may/may not
include the mailing list).
- except if original mail contains "mail-copies-to: never"[1],
in which case the original author will not get a separate copy.
Not sure about other people.
followup
- same thing as "wide reply" for mailing lists where "to-address"
is not set. Otherwise...
- reply to "to-address" only.
- except if "mail-copies-to: always" was set, in which case a CC
is sent to the author.
- if you want to manually force replying to the original author,
then pushing C-c C-t (did I get that correct?) will add him/her
to the "to" field.
So, me thinks it is a pity that the wide reply wont always include
the address of the mailing list, but everything else seems
rather sane and straight forward.
Note:
[1] I can't remember if this is never or nobody. Please substitute for
correct value, and don't take my version as being up-to-date and
correct.
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Brian May <bmay@csse.monash.edu.au>
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* Re: Reply in mailing lists
1999-12-13 0:37 ` Brian May
1999-12-13 9:02 ` Per Abrahamsen
@ 1999-12-21 20:18 ` Kai Großjohann
1999-12-22 6:33 ` Brian May
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 1999-12-21 20:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Brian May <bmay@csse.monash.edu.au> writes:
> Is it possible to send a wide reply to everybody, *including* the
> mailing list? Currently, for wide replies, the mailing list does not
> appear (because the To: and CC: headers were removed by the mail2news
> gateway). Required for the same reason.
You can set a group parameter which tells Gnus to send a mail to some
address whenever you want to post something. I think. Hm.
Apparently, to-address fulfills this need. Read the docs for details.
kai
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* Re: Reply in mailing lists
1999-12-21 20:18 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 1999-12-22 6:33 ` Brian May
1999-12-22 8:43 ` Steinar Bang
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From: Brian May @ 1999-12-22 6:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Brian May, ding
>>>>> "Kai" == Kai Großjohann <Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE> writes:
Kai> You can set a group parameter which tells Gnus to send a mail
Kai> to some address whenever you want to post something. I
Kai> think. Hm.
Kai> Apparently, to-address fulfills this need. Read the docs for
Kai> details.
No - the to-address only takes affect for new postings (a), and
followups (F). It doesn't effect wide replies (S W, which IMHO should
go everywhere[1]).
On the topic of replies, when replying to your message, Gnus wouldn't
add the ding@gnus.org address... This use to work, not sure why it
isn't working now. I tried both "F" and "S W".
Perhaps it is because I change the value of the CC header within
gnus-posting-styles, however, this use to work fine. Initially, I
tested it in PGnus 0.98 to make sure. Has something changed?
Personally I prefer setting all settings for groups within
gnus-posting-styles, as it simplifies my config file.
[1] depending on the mail-copies-to header, of course.
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Brian May <bmay@csse.monash.edu.au>
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* Re: Reply in mailing lists
1999-12-22 6:33 ` Brian May
@ 1999-12-22 8:43 ` Steinar Bang
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From: Steinar Bang @ 1999-12-22 8:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> Brian May <bmay@csse.monash.edu.au>:
>>>>> "Kai" == Kai Großjohann <Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE> writes:
Kai> You can set a group parameter which tells Gnus to send a mail
Kai> to some address whenever you want to post something. I
Kai> think. Hm.
Kai> Apparently, to-address fulfills this need. Read the docs for
Kai> details.
> No - the to-address only takes affect for new postings (a), and
> followups (F). It doesn't effect wide replies (S W, which IMHO
> should go everywhere[1]).
I have this in the Group Parameters of the newsgroup fa.info-cvs at
news.eunet.no, which is gated from the info-cvs mailing list at some
point:
((to-list . "info-cvs@prep.ai.mit.edu")
(to-address . "info-cvs@prep.ai.mit.edu"))
I don't know why or even if I need both to-list and to-address (it's
so long since I did this), but it seems to work.
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