agent hosed in oort gnus?

agent hosed in oort gnus?

[Christoph Rohland]

Hi folks,

I regularly test oort gnus (now on 0.06) and I like a lot in
it. Especially the crypt integration and the speed improvements. 

But two things hinder me in using it for my daily work when running
agentized:

1) I have my predicate set to true to sync all articles. But it
   refuses to download my mail with 'J s'. I have to mark (most?) 
   articles manually for download. Maybe this is related to the new
   recent flags?
2) Deleted articles very often show up as unread in the summary
   buffer. When I select them they are shown as deleted. 

The first is annoying but can be wroked around, the second hinders
productivity heavily.

Greetings
		Christoph

Re: agent hosed in oort gnus?

[Wes Hardaker]

>>>>> On Mon, 06 May 2002 20:08:46 +0200, Christoph Rohland <cr@sap.com> said:

Christoph> 1) I have my predicate set to true to sync all articles. But it
Christoph> refuses to download my mail with 'J s'. I have to mark (most?) 
Christoph> articles manually for download. Maybe this is related to the new
Christoph> recent flags?

I've been meaning to mention this for a while too, so FYI I see it as
well.

-- 
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will
 insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."   -- Terry Pratchett

Re: agent hosed in oort gnus?

[Wes Hardaker]

>>>>> On Mon, 06 May 2002 20:08:46 +0200, Christoph Rohland <cr@sap.com> said:

Christoph> 2) Deleted articles very often show up as unread in the summary
Christoph> buffer. When I select them they are shown as deleted. 

Oh, on that one you need to flush your agent cache.  Run
(gnus-agent-expire) and it'll probably help things.

-- 
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will
 insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."   -- Terry Pratchett

Re: agent hosed in oort gnus?

[Christoph Rohland]

Hi Wes,

On Mon, 06 May 2002, Wes Hardaker wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 06 May 2002 20:08:46 +0200, Christoph Rohland
>>>>>> <cr@sap.com> said:
> 
> Christoph> 2) Deleted articles very often show up as unread in the
> Christoph>    summary
> Christoph> buffer. When I select them they are shown as deleted. 
> 
> Oh, on that one you need to flush your agent cache.  Run
> (gnus-agent-expire) and it'll probably help things.

Huh, is this meant to be that way???

Greetings
                Christoph

Re: agent hosed in oort gnus?

[Wes Hardaker]

>>>>> On 07 May 2002 19:07:23 +0200, Christoph Rohland <cr@sap.com> said:

>> Oh, on that one you need to flush your agent cache.  Run
>> (gnus-agent-expire) and it'll probably help things.

Christoph> Huh, is this meant to be that way???

Well, oort now defaults to caching things in the agent cache all the
time now.  The problem is that they haven't tied together the normal
expiry process with the agent one.  IMHO, they should be bound
together.  Originally, if I remember correctly, Lars didn't trust the
agent expiry process at the time (it wasn't mature) so he didn't want
to force binding it.  It's time, IMHO, to do so now though.

-- 
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will
 insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."   -- Terry Pratchett

Re: agent hosed in oort gnus?

[Christoph Rohland]

Hi Wes,

On Tue, 07 May 2002, Wes Hardaker wrote:
> Well, oort now defaults to caching things in the agent cache all the
> time now.  The problem is that they haven't tied together the normal
> expiry process with the agent one.  IMHO, they should be bound
> together.  Originally, if I remember correctly, Lars didn't trust
> the agent expiry process at the time (it wasn't mature) so he didn't
> want to force binding it.  It's time, IMHO, to do so now though.

But the respective articles were not delete by expiry but by 'B
del'. So there should be no inconsistency...

Greetings
                Christoph

Re: agent hosed in oort gnus?

[Wes Hardaker]

>>>>> On 08 May 2002 09:14:35 +0200, Christoph Rohland <cr@sap.com> said:

Christoph> But the respective articles were not delete by expiry but
Christoph> by 'B del'. So there should be no inconsistency...

Hmm...  B del is probably not deleting them from the agent cache, so I
think the expire process will still delete them there...  sigh...

B del should really delete them from the agent cache too, you're
right.  Hopefully someone will fix this.

You might try deleting the agent cache for your group by hand (look in
~/News/agent/METHOD/SERVER/ and remove the directory for that group).

-- 
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will
 insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."   -- Terry Pratchett