Discussion of Homotopy Type Theory and Univalent Foundations
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From: Thomas Streicher <stre...@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
To: Thierry Coquand <Thierry...@cse.gu.se>
Cc: Homotopy Type Theory <homotopyt...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] A small observation on cumulativity and the failure of initiality
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 11:26:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171015092617.GA684@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61005fc37ae1495bb2038467222db2e7@cse.gu.se>

>  A quite detailed interpretation of type theory in set theory is presented
> 
> in the paper of Peter Aczel "On Relating Type Theories and Set Theories".
> 
> On can define directly the interpretation of lambda terms (provided that abstraction is
> 
> typed), and using set theoretic coding, one can use a global application operation
> 
> (so that the interpretation is total). One can then checked by induction on derivations
> 
> that all judgements are valid for this interpretation.

Thanks, Thierry, for pointing this out. But Peter's method does not
extend to arbitrary split models of dependent type theory. What Peter
uses here intrinsically is that everything is a set since otherwise he
couldn't interpret type theoretic quantification.
My interpretation got partial on pseudoexpressions since pseudoterms
can't be understood as pseudo-type-expressions.

I don't see how Peter's method extends to interpretation of
realizability or (pre)sheaf models of dependent type theories not to
speak of arbitrary contextual cats or other split categorical models
of dependent type theories.

Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-15  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-12 18:43 Dimitris Tsementzis
2017-10-12 22:31 ` [HoTT] " Michael Shulman
2017-10-13  4:30   ` Dimitris Tsementzis
2017-10-13 15:41     ` Michael Shulman
2017-10-13 21:51       ` Dimitris Tsementzis
2017-10-13  0:09 ` Steve Awodey
2017-10-13  0:44   ` Alexander Altman
2017-10-13 15:50   ` Michael Shulman
2017-10-13 16:17     ` Steve Awodey
2017-10-13 16:23       ` Michael Shulman
2017-10-13 16:36         ` Matt Oliveri
2017-10-14 14:56         ` Gabriel Scherer
2017-10-15  7:45           ` Thomas Streicher
2017-10-15  8:37             ` Thierry Coquand
2017-10-15  9:26               ` Thomas Streicher [this message]
2017-10-16  5:30                 ` Andrew Polonsky
2017-10-15 10:12             ` Michael Shulman
2017-10-15 13:57               ` Thomas Streicher
2017-10-15 14:53                 ` Michael Shulman
2017-10-15 16:00                   ` Michael Shulman
2017-10-15 21:00                     ` Matt Oliveri
2017-10-16  5:09                       ` Michael Shulman
2017-10-16 12:30                         ` Neel Krishnaswami
2017-10-16 13:35                           ` Matt Oliveri
2017-10-16 15:00                           ` Michael Shulman
2017-10-16 16:34                             ` Matt Oliveri
2017-10-16 13:45                         ` Matt Oliveri
2017-10-16 15:05                           ` Michael Shulman
2017-10-16 16:20                             ` Matt Oliveri
2017-10-16 16:37                               ` Michael Shulman
2017-10-16 10:01                   ` Thomas Streicher
2017-10-15 20:06     ` Matt Oliveri
2017-10-13  8:03 ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2017-10-13  8:10   ` Thomas Streicher
2017-10-14  7:33     ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-10-14  9:37       ` Andrej Bauer
2017-10-14  9:52         ` Thomas Streicher
2017-10-14 10:51           ` SV: " Erik Palmgren
2017-10-15 23:42           ` Andrej Bauer
2017-10-15 10:42         ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-10-13 22:05   ` Dimitris Tsementzis
2017-10-13 14:12 ` Robin Adams
     [not found] <B14E498C-FA19-41D2-B196-42FAF85F8CD8@princeton.edu>
2017-10-14  9:55 ` [HoTT] " Alexander Altman
2017-10-16 10:21 Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-10-16 10:42 ` Andrew Polonsky
2017-10-16 14:12   ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-10-16 10:21 Thorsten Altenkirch

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