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From: Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Best bikeshed ever (feature test macros)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 08:32:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120825123215.GL27715@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120825153556.20782684@sibserver.ru>

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 03:35:56PM +0800, orc wrote:
> Will exposing everything by default enlarge program size by including
> unneeded symbols?

The only way this could happen is if the newly exposed portions of the
headers include static inline functions and the compiler decides to
generate code for them even when they're not used.

The compiler could also increase the size of _debugging_ tables in the
output to include the unused types, etc. but not the size of actual
code.

> From my point of view, appending -D_GNU_SOURCE everytime when you
> install software on system is painful, but it can be "hidden", for

Actually it can't; this is the main problem with the current approach.
Unconditionally adding -D_GNU_SOURCE to CFLAGS for all programs
"fixes" most programs that should be using it themselves, but breaks a
small but nonzero number of fully-correct programs that are using
feature test macros properly to _avoid_ having their namespace
polluted by nonstandard symbols that conflict with their own use of
the corresponding names.

Thus, before you have build a package, you have to know whether it
makes use of feature test macros on its own.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-25 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-24 21:41 Rich Felker
2012-08-24 22:24 ` Gregor Richards
2012-08-24 23:59 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2012-08-25  7:35 ` orc
2012-08-25 12:32   ` Rich Felker [this message]
2012-08-25 15:29     ` orc
2012-08-25  9:11 ` Luca Barbato
2012-08-27 18:08 ` Isaac Dunham
2012-08-29  5:34 ` philomath
2012-08-29 13:49   ` Rich Felker
2012-08-29 14:01     ` Gregor Richards
2012-08-29 14:43       ` Rich Felker
2012-08-29 15:08         ` Bobby Bingham
2012-08-29 15:23           ` Rich Felker
2012-08-29 17:17             ` Gregor Richards
2012-08-29 17:59       ` Isaac Dunham
2012-08-29 18:08         ` Rich Felker
2012-09-02  8:48 ` Arvid E. Picciani
2012-09-02 15:19   ` Rich Felker
2012-09-02 15:27     ` Arvid E. Picciani
2012-09-02 15:44       ` Rich Felker
2012-09-02 17:00 ` nwmcsween
2012-09-02 17:06   ` Gregor Richards
2012-09-02 17:13     ` Rich Felker
2012-09-02 17:18       ` Gregor Richards
2012-09-02 17:10   ` Rich Felker

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