From: Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Re: Best bikeshed ever (feature test macros)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:49:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120829134939.GS27715@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120829073442.66c72367@gmail.com>
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 07:34:42AM +0200, philomath wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:41:38 -0400
> Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote:
>
>
> > 1. Leaving everything as it is.
>
> > 2. Making the kitchen sink (_GNU_SOURCE) available by default.
>
> > 3. Making only some limited subset (e.g. POSIX base) available by
> > default.
>
> The bikeshed should definitely not be colored black.
>
> I'd lean towards 3, 1 is fine too. but please not 2, musl's
> correctness is one of it's unique features...
>
> Thanks.
Thanks for the input. What correctness aspect is important to you? I
conceptually like the minimal-by-default namespace, but ISO C does not
specify how to invoke the compiler, so even implementations that
require you to use obscure options to get a clean plain-C namespace
are "correct". In practice, any of the options 1-3 would give the
clean namespace as long as -std=c* is used with no feature test
macros.
With that said, I do tend to agree that option 2 is ugly, mainly since
it exposes not just useful modern extensions but all kinds of ugly
legacy things, like sys/sysmacros.h junk getting pulled in from
standard headers... So far the most reasonable proposals I've seen are
along the lines of "XSI plus some extensions" where the latter would
correspond to _BSD_SOURCE or some analogue of _SVID_SOURCE (which is
not supported by musl at this time).
Rich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-29 13:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-24 21:41 Rich Felker
2012-08-24 22:24 ` Gregor Richards
2012-08-24 23:59 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2012-08-25 7:35 ` orc
2012-08-25 12:32 ` Rich Felker
2012-08-25 15:29 ` orc
2012-08-25 9:11 ` Luca Barbato
2012-08-27 18:08 ` Isaac Dunham
2012-08-29 5:34 ` philomath
2012-08-29 13:49 ` Rich Felker [this message]
2012-08-29 14:01 ` Gregor Richards
2012-08-29 14:43 ` Rich Felker
2012-08-29 15:08 ` Bobby Bingham
2012-08-29 15:23 ` Rich Felker
2012-08-29 17:17 ` Gregor Richards
2012-08-29 17:59 ` Isaac Dunham
2012-08-29 18:08 ` Rich Felker
2012-09-02 8:48 ` Arvid E. Picciani
2012-09-02 15:19 ` Rich Felker
2012-09-02 15:27 ` Arvid E. Picciani
2012-09-02 15:44 ` Rich Felker
2012-09-02 17:00 ` nwmcsween
2012-09-02 17:06 ` Gregor Richards
2012-09-02 17:13 ` Rich Felker
2012-09-02 17:18 ` Gregor Richards
2012-09-02 17:10 ` Rich Felker
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