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From: Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Best bikeshed ever (feature test macros)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:44:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120902154458.GB27715@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b78df98697c21ad42767a71181cb0fcf@exys.org>

On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 05:27:26PM +0200, Arvid E. Picciani wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:19:18 -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> 
> >If software is already correctly using feature test macros, it's
> >getting an environment it selected, not the default environment, so
> >changing the default will have no effect on such software.
> 
> I see, thanks. But then there is no software that benefits from the
> default kitchen sink.
> So it seems like a pseudo option put up just to show how bad it is :)

Well, glibc seems to be the only major system that's essentially
locked the default profile to a certain point in history, and forced
the use of a feature test macro to access even its own newer features.
Most of the BSDs reportedly make (their version of) the kitchen sink
available by default, so such a behavior might be more compatible with
certain software that was intended only for use on BSD.

Aside from that, I agree that option 2 is mostly a pseudo-option.

Rich




  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-02 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-24 21:41 Rich Felker
2012-08-24 22:24 ` Gregor Richards
2012-08-24 23:59 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2012-08-25  7:35 ` orc
2012-08-25 12:32   ` Rich Felker
2012-08-25 15:29     ` orc
2012-08-25  9:11 ` Luca Barbato
2012-08-27 18:08 ` Isaac Dunham
2012-08-29  5:34 ` philomath
2012-08-29 13:49   ` Rich Felker
2012-08-29 14:01     ` Gregor Richards
2012-08-29 14:43       ` Rich Felker
2012-08-29 15:08         ` Bobby Bingham
2012-08-29 15:23           ` Rich Felker
2012-08-29 17:17             ` Gregor Richards
2012-08-29 17:59       ` Isaac Dunham
2012-08-29 18:08         ` Rich Felker
2012-09-02  8:48 ` Arvid E. Picciani
2012-09-02 15:19   ` Rich Felker
2012-09-02 15:27     ` Arvid E. Picciani
2012-09-02 15:44       ` Rich Felker [this message]
2012-09-02 17:00 ` nwmcsween
2012-09-02 17:06   ` Gregor Richards
2012-09-02 17:13     ` Rich Felker
2012-09-02 17:18       ` Gregor Richards
2012-09-02 17:10   ` Rich Felker

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