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From: Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: libc-coord@lists.openwall.com, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, musl@lists.openwall.com,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: [musl] Re: [libc-coord] Re: [musl] Re: regression in man pages for interfaces using loff_t
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2023 15:36:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230701133652.GF3630668@port70.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f3f58057-f764-b4bf-a3fe-92867cfa3131@cs.ucla.edu>

* Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> [2023-07-01 00:24:27 -0700]:
> On 2023-06-30 16:37, Rich Felker wrote:
> > This is still changing the documentated signature, which isn't really
> > nice, and would not be compatible with glibc unless glibc went out of
> > its way to hide those functions when _FILE_OFFSET_BITS is 32.
> 
> I don't see any incompatibility with glibc and the changes I proposed. The
> changes merely weaken the spec in the man pages in an area where the spec
> should be weakened. glibc is compatible with the spec before it was changed
> to use off64_t, it's compatible with the spec now that it uses off64_t, and
> it would continue to be compatible with the spec if the proposed changes are
> adopted.

loff_t * can be incompatible with off64_t * as well as off_t *.

the documentation change can break the api of an implementation,
it is not weakening the spec.

(it can also break abi if loff_t has different abi than off64_t. two
integer types can have same range, representation and syscall argument
passing abi, but different libc abi and different c++ abi)

i don't think you can claim that glibc is compatible either way, as
a future target port can define loff_t differently than off64_t.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-01 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-28 17:53 [musl] " Rich Felker
2023-06-28 18:21 ` [musl] " Paul Eggert
2023-06-28 19:15   ` Rich Felker
2023-06-30  7:11     ` Paul Eggert
2023-06-30  8:02       ` [musl] Re: [libc-coord] " Jonathan Wakely
2023-06-30  8:14         ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-06-30  8:30           ` Sam James
2023-06-30 19:44         ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-02  1:18           ` A. Wilcox
2023-07-02 19:21             ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-03 18:16               ` Jakub Wilk
2023-07-03 21:35                 ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-08 17:03                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-07-09  6:07                     ` [musl] [PATCH v4] off64_t: prefer off_t for splice, etc Paul Eggert
2023-07-09  6:16                       ` [musl] Re: [libc-coord] " Sam James
2023-07-15 15:08                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-07-15 18:35                           ` Rich Felker
2023-07-15 20:01                             ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-16  0:35                             ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-07-16  0:39                               ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-06-30 23:37       ` [musl] Re: regression in man pages for interfaces using loff_t Rich Felker
2023-07-01  7:24         ` [musl] Re: [libc-coord] " Paul Eggert
2023-07-01 13:36           ` Szabolcs Nagy [this message]
2023-07-01 23:02             ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-01 14:32           ` Rich Felker
2023-07-01 18:45             ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-07-01 23:06             ` Paul Eggert
2023-06-28 19:19   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-06-28 19:28   ` Rich Felker

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