* {\rm foo {\it bar}} @ 2023-06-30 9:47 Gerben Wierda [not found] ` <E6788A98-8CAA-451F-A3C1-E611791D6C6F@scorecrow.com> 2023-07-04 21:29 ` Bruce Horrocks 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Gerben Wierda @ 2023-06-30 9:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 438 bytes --] If I typeset {\rm foo{\it bar}} bar is not in italic if I typeset {\it bar} it is. What am I missing? Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>) R&A IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4012 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 495 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}} [not found] ` <E6788A98-8CAA-451F-A3C1-E611791D6C6F@scorecrow.com> @ 2023-07-04 21:17 ` Gerben Wierda 2023-07-04 21:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Gerben Wierda @ 2023-07-04 21:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bruce Horrocks; +Cc: ntg-context mailing list [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1398 bytes --] After erasing the font cache and regenerating LM was doing it right again. Helvetica did not, but maybe I made a mistake in \definefontfamily [helvetica] [ss] [Helvetica] [tf=style:Regular, bf=style:Bold, it=style:Oblique, bi=style:Bold Oblique] \starttext {\rm The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog {\it Optima}} \setupbodyfont[helvetica] {\rm The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog {\it Optima}} \stoptext > On 4 Jul 2023, at 22:52, Bruce Horrocks <bruce@scorecrow.com> wrote: > > > >> On 30 Jun 2023, at 10:47, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl <mailto:gerben.wierda@rna.nl>> wrote: >> >> If I typeset >> >> {\rm foo{\it bar}} >> >> bar is not in italic > > It is in italic for me in ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.04 > >> if I typeset >> >> {\it bar} >> >> it is. >> >> What am I missing? >> >> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn, Mastodon) >> R&A IT Strategy (main site) >> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture >> Book: Mastering ArchiMate > > — > Bruce Horrocks > Hampshire, UK Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>) R&A IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 13048 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 495 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}} 2023-07-04 21:17 ` Gerben Wierda @ 2023-07-04 21:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2023-07-04 21:42 ` Gerben Wierda 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2023-07-04 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Gerben Wierda [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 508 bytes --] Gerben Wierda schrieb am 04.07.2023 um 23:17: > After erasing the font cache and regenerating LM was doing it right > again. > > Helvetica did not, but maybe I made a mistake in > > \definefontfamily > [helvetica] > [ss] > [Helvetica] > [tf=style:Regular, > bf=style:Bold, > it=style:Oblique, > bi=style:Bold Oblique] Does it work when you remove the manual assignments to tf, it, etc. or when you use lowercase names (without spaces), e.g. "bi=boldoblique" (or "bi=bolditalic"). Wolfgang [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2644 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 495 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}} 2023-07-04 21:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2023-07-04 21:42 ` Gerben Wierda 2023-07-04 21:48 ` Gerben Wierda 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Gerben Wierda @ 2023-07-04 21:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2242 bytes --] > On 4 Jul 2023, at 23:26, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote: > > Gerben Wierda schrieb am 04.07.2023 um 23:17: >> After erasing the font cache and regenerating LM was doing it right again. >> >> Helvetica did not, but maybe I made a mistake in >> >> \definefontfamily >> [helvetica] >> [ss] >> [Helvetica] >> [tf=style:Regular, >> bf=style:Bold, >> it=style:Oblique, >> bi=style:Bold Oblique] > > Does it work when you remove the manual assignments to tf, it, etc. or when you use lowercase names (without spaces), e.g. "bi=boldoblique" (or "bi=bolditalic"). No and no. With th elatter it doesn't load Helvetica at all, Error shown: selectfont > the requested font 'Helvetica' has no files for the 'tf' alternative, Latin Modern is used instead. mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-italic.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf, lmsans10-regular.otf With my original it does load (but no italic): mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: helvetica.ttc, latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-italic.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf Erase cache, regenerate formats, reload fonts (force) does give another (probably unrelated) error: fonts | names | identifying system font files with suffix 'ttf' fonts | names | globbing path '/Library/Fonts/**.ttf' fonts | names | globbing path '/System/Library/Fonts/**.ttf' otf reader | fatal error in file '/System/Library/Fonts/SFCompactRounded.ttf': ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-dsp.lua:3689: attempt to index a nil value (field '?') stack traceback: ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-otr.lua:2344: in metamethod 'index' ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-dsp.lua:3689: in local 'reader' ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-otr.lua:2089: in upvalue 'readtable' Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>) R&A IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 10822 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 495 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}} 2023-07-04 21:42 ` Gerben Wierda @ 2023-07-04 21:48 ` Gerben Wierda 2023-07-04 22:11 ` Gerben Wierda 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Gerben Wierda @ 2023-07-04 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3587 bytes --] Also doesn't work with ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.22 14:13 LMTX fmt: 2023.7.4 int: english/english > On 4 Jul 2023, at 23:42, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> wrote: > > > >> On 4 Jul 2023, at 23:26, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com <mailto:wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Gerben Wierda schrieb am 04.07.2023 um 23:17: >>> After erasing the font cache and regenerating LM was doing it right again. >>> >>> Helvetica did not, but maybe I made a mistake in >>> >>> \definefontfamily >>> [helvetica] >>> [ss] >>> [Helvetica] >>> [tf=style:Regular, >>> bf=style:Bold, >>> it=style:Oblique, >>> bi=style:Bold Oblique] >> >> Does it work when you remove the manual assignments to tf, it, etc. or when you use lowercase names (without spaces), e.g. "bi=boldoblique" (or "bi=bolditalic"). > > No and no. With th elatter it doesn't load Helvetica at all, Error shown: > selectfont > the requested font 'Helvetica' has no files for the 'tf' alternative, Latin Modern is used instead. > mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-italic.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf, lmsans10-regular.otf > > With my original it does load (but no italic): > mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: helvetica.ttc, latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-italic.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf > > > Erase cache, regenerate formats, reload fonts (force) does give another (probably unrelated) error: > > fonts | names | identifying system font files with suffix 'ttf' > fonts | names | globbing path '/Library/Fonts/**.ttf' > fonts | names | globbing path '/System/Library/Fonts/**.ttf' > otf reader | fatal error in file '/System/Library/Fonts/SFCompactRounded.ttf': ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-dsp.lua:3689: attempt to index a nil value (field '?') > stack traceback: > ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-otr.lua:2344: in metamethod 'index' > ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-dsp.lua:3689: in local 'reader' > ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-otr.lua:2089: in upvalue 'readtable' > > > Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>) > R&A IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) > Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> > Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context <https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context> > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl <https://www.pragma-ade.nl/> / http://context.aanhet.net <http://context.aanhet.net/> > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ <https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/> > wiki : https://contextgarden.net <https://contextgarden.net/> > ___________________________________________________________________________________ Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>) R&A IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 26969 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 495 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}} 2023-07-04 21:48 ` Gerben Wierda @ 2023-07-04 22:11 ` Gerben Wierda 2023-07-05 5:57 ` Gerben Wierda 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Gerben Wierda @ 2023-07-04 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4941 bytes --] Found it (I think) \definefontfamily defines tf= but the text says \rm If I use \tf in the text it works. If I use \rm in the text it works for default Latin Modern but not for any font defined. This is true regardless of using rm= or tf= in the definition. So, it seems to be the combination of using definefontfamily and \rm > On 4 Jul 2023, at 23:48, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> wrote: > > Also doesn't work with ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.22 14:13 LMTX fmt: 2023.7.4 int: english/english > >> On 4 Jul 2023, at 23:42, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl <mailto:gerben.wierda@rna.nl>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 4 Jul 2023, at 23:26, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com <mailto:wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Gerben Wierda schrieb am 04.07.2023 um 23:17: >>>> After erasing the font cache and regenerating LM was doing it right again. >>>> >>>> Helvetica did not, but maybe I made a mistake in >>>> >>>> \definefontfamily >>>> [helvetica] >>>> [ss] >>>> [Helvetica] >>>> [tf=style:Regular, >>>> bf=style:Bold, >>>> it=style:Oblique, >>>> bi=style:Bold Oblique] >>> >>> Does it work when you remove the manual assignments to tf, it, etc. or when you use lowercase names (without spaces), e.g. "bi=boldoblique" (or "bi=bolditalic"). >> >> No and no. With th elatter it doesn't load Helvetica at all, Error shown: >> selectfont > the requested font 'Helvetica' has no files for the 'tf' alternative, Latin Modern is used instead. >> mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-italic.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf, lmsans10-regular.otf >> >> With my original it does load (but no italic): >> mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: helvetica.ttc, latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-italic.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf >> >> >> Erase cache, regenerate formats, reload fonts (force) does give another (probably unrelated) error: >> >> fonts | names | identifying system font files with suffix 'ttf' >> fonts | names | globbing path '/Library/Fonts/**.ttf' >> fonts | names | globbing path '/System/Library/Fonts/**.ttf' >> otf reader | fatal error in file '/System/Library/Fonts/SFCompactRounded.ttf': ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-dsp.lua:3689: attempt to index a nil value (field '?') >> stack traceback: >> ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-otr.lua:2344: in metamethod 'index' >> ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-dsp.lua:3689: in local 'reader' >> ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-otr.lua:2089: in upvalue 'readtable' >> >> >> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>) >> R&A IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) >> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> >> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context <https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context> >> webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl <https://www.pragma-ade.nl/> / http://context.aanhet.net <http://context.aanhet.net/> >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ <https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/> >> wiki : https://contextgarden.net <https://contextgarden.net/> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>) > R&A IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) > Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> > Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>) R&A IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 32048 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 495 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}} 2023-07-04 22:11 ` Gerben Wierda @ 2023-07-05 5:57 ` Gerben Wierda 2023-07-05 7:39 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Gerben Wierda @ 2023-07-05 5:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/html, Size: 32353 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 495 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}} 2023-07-05 5:57 ` Gerben Wierda @ 2023-07-05 7:39 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2023-07-05 7:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 05.07.23 um 07:57 schrieb Gerben Wierda: > And the reason probably is that the font is defined as sans serif [ss]? Well, if you only define a sans font, \rm is somewhat undefined. You call the upright variant with \tf; \rm switches to the serif font. Hraban ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}} 2023-06-30 9:47 {\rm foo {\it bar}} Gerben Wierda [not found] ` <E6788A98-8CAA-451F-A3C1-E611791D6C6F@scorecrow.com> @ 2023-07-04 21:29 ` Bruce Horrocks 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Bruce Horrocks @ 2023-07-04 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context mailing list > On 30 Jun 2023, at 10:47, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> wrote: > > If I typeset > > {\rm foo{\it bar}} > > bar is not in italic It is in italic for me in ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.04 > if I typeset > > {\it bar} > > it is. > > What am I missing? > > Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn, Mastodon) > R&A IT Strategy (main site) > Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture > Book: Mastering ArchiMate — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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