Simple documents do multiple LaTeX runs

Simple documents do multiple LaTeX runs

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When I use Pandoc to generate PDFs, pandoc does always multiple LaTeX runs.

I know this is necessary for citing and cross referencing, but Pandoc does so even for simple do documents which need certainly only one pass.

How can I tell Pandoc to gebrate PDFs with only one LaTeX run?

Many thanks,
Walter

Re: Simple documents do multiple LaTeX runs

[John MacFarlane]

The reason we always do at least 2 runs is that 1 run won't give you PDF bookmarks.

Of course if you only want one run you could try to optimize by using latexmk as your engine and tweaking its options (it will only be run once because it handles multiple runs itself). Or just produce a tex file and tex it yourself (automate with script or Makefile).

> On Oct 26, 2023, at 4:40 AM, news-WPTjrydoUPgeaOpM6FAJmQkbCANdLtlA@public.gmane.org wrote:
> 
> When I use Pandoc to generate PDFs, pandoc does always multiple LaTeX runs.
> 
> I know this is necessary for citing and cross referencing, but Pandoc does so even for simple do documents which need certainly only one pass.
> 
> How can I tell Pandoc to gebrate PDFs with only one LaTeX run?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Walter
> 
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Re: Simple documents do multiple LaTeX runs

[Oliver Baumann]

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Thanks John

Makes sense. I'll try the latexmk route!

Happy pandocing!
On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 3:29:18 AM UTC+11 John MacFarlane wrote:

> The reason we always do at least 2 runs is that 1 run won't give you PDF 
> bookmarks.
>
> Of course if you only want one run you could try to optimize by using 
> latexmk as your engine and tweaking its options (it will only be run once 
> because it handles multiple runs itself). Or just produce a tex file and 
> tex it yourself (automate with script or Makefile).
>
> > On Oct 26, 2023, at 4:40 AM, ne...-WPTjrydoUPgeaOpM6FAJmQkbCANdLtlA@public.gmane.org wrote:
> > 
> > When I use Pandoc to generate PDFs, pandoc does always multiple LaTeX 
> runs.
> > 
> > I know this is necessary for citing and cross referencing, but Pandoc 
> does so even for simple do documents which need certainly only one pass.
> > 
> > How can I tell Pandoc to gebrate PDFs with only one LaTeX run?
> > 
> > Many thanks,
> > Walter
> > 
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How to pass to latexmk options which have a space-separated argument

[oliver]

Hi there

I try to use latexmk with pandoc and I want to pass to latexmk the option:-e $max_repeat=1

So I try the following:

pandoc doc.md  -t latex --pdf-engine=latexmk  '--pdf-engine-opt=-e $max_repeat=1' -o doc.pdf

But I get from latexmk the error: “Latexmk: -e $max_repeat=1 unknown option”

How can I pass to latexmk this option which has an argument separated by space?

Thanks for pointers!
Oliver

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Re: How to pass to latexmk options which have a space-separated argument

['William Lupton' via pandoc-discuss]

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I think you need to use multiple options, as in:

pandoc doc.md  -t latex --pdf-engine=latexmk --pdf-engine-opt=-e
--pdf-engine-opt='$max_repeat=1' -o doc.pdf

(I don't use latexmk, but I guess I must have it installed because the
above worked for me. It didn't seem to create an output file, but that's
probably a different problem.)

On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 at 07:32, oliver <news-WPTjrydoUPgeaOpM6FAJmQkbCANdLtlA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Hi there
>
> I try to use latexmk with pandoc and I want to pass to latexmk the
> option:-e $max_repeat=1
>
> So I try the following:
>
> pandoc doc.md  -t latex --pdf-engine=latexmk  '--pdf-engine-opt=-e
> $max_repeat=1' -o doc.pdf
>
> But I get from latexmk the error: “Latexmk: -e $max_repeat=1 unknown
> option”
>
> How can I pass to latexmk this option which has an argument separated by
> space?
>
> Thanks for pointers!
> Oliver
>
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Re: How to pass to latexmk options which have a space-separated argument

[BP Jonsson]

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Den mån 30 okt. 2023 08:45'William Lupton' via pandoc-discuss <
pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> skrev:

> I think you need to use multiple options, as in:
>
> pandoc doc.md  -t latex --pdf-engine=latexmk --pdf-engine-opt=-e
> --pdf-engine-opt='$max_repeat=1' -o doc.pdf
>
> (I don't use latexmk, but I guess I must have it installed
>

You probably got it installed along with TeXLive.

because the above worked for me. It didn't seem to create an output file,
> but that's probably a different problem.)
>
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 at 07:32, oliver <news-WPTjrydoUPgeaOpM6FAJmQkbCANdLtlA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi there
>>
>> I try to use latexmk with pandoc and I want to pass to latexmk the
>> option:-e $max_repeat=1
>>
>> So I try the following:
>>
>> pandoc doc.md  -t latex --pdf-engine=latexmk  '--pdf-engine-opt=-e
>> $max_repeat=1' -o doc.pdf
>>
>> But I get from latexmk the error: “Latexmk: -e $max_repeat=1 unknown
>> option”
>>
>> How can I pass to latexmk this option which has an argument separated by
>> space?
>>
>> Thanks for pointers!
>> Oliver
>>
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Re: How to pass to latexmk options which have a space-separated argument

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, at 6:45 PM, 'William Lupton' via pandoc-discuss wrote:
> I think you need to use multiple options, as in:
> 
> pandoc doc.md  -t latex --pdf-engine=latexmk --pdf-engine-opt=-e --pdf-engine-opt='$max_repeat=1' -o doc.pdf

Cool! That's it. Very literal thinking.

It works for me.

Thanks a lot!

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How to pass to latexmk options which have a space-separated argument

[Oliver]

Hi there

I want to copy all the sources of a markdown file (like its images) into a temp folder and then generate its `.tex` file there and run `(pdf)latex`over it.

Can Pandoc help me with copying the referenced sources? It clearly does the same when running `pdflatex` itself: The verbose output shows that it gathers all the images.

Thanks for any help.

Oliver

(PS: The reason I don’t want to use Pandoc’s mechanism to run `pdflatex` directly is that Pando alwyas does _two_ latex runs, even though sometiems I want only one run the most.)

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How to copy all (image) source files of a markdown file into a temp folder

[Oliver]

_Sorry, I have posted the follwoing before, but under the wrong subject, so here with the correct subject line_:

Hi there

I want to copy all the sources of a markdown file (like its images) into a temp folder and then generate its `.tex` file there and run `(pdf)latex`over it.

Can Pandoc help me with copying the referenced sources? It clearly does the same when running `pdflatex` itself: The verbose output shows that it gathers all the images.

Thanks for any help.

Oliver

(PS: The reason I don’t want to use Pandoc’s mechanism to run `pdflatex` directly is that Pando alwyas does _two_ latex runs, even though sometiems I want only one run the most.)

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Re: How to copy all (image) source files of a markdown file into a temp folder

[Bastien DUMONT]

Doesn't it just work if you type `pandoc -o myfile.tex myfile.md && pdflatex myfile`? myfile.tex will include the paths to the image files as indicated in myfile.md

Le Friday 03 November 2023 à 06:19:15PM, Oliver a écrit :
> _Sorry, I have posted the follwoing before, but under the wrong subject, so here with the correct subject line_:
> 
> Hi there
> 
> I want to copy all the sources of a markdown file (like its images) into a temp folder and then generate its `.tex` file there and run `(pdf)latex`over it.
> 
> Can Pandoc help me with copying the referenced sources? It clearly does the same when running `pdflatex` itself: The verbose output shows that it gathers all the images.
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Oliver
> 
> (PS: The reason I don’t want to use Pandoc’s mechanism to run `pdflatex` directly is that Pando alwyas does _two_ latex runs, even though sometiems I want only one run the most.)
> 
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Re: How to copy all (image) source files of a markdown file into a temp folder

[oliver]

Well, I really like was Pandoc does when it runs pdflatex internally: Hiding all the auxiliary files from a TeX run in a temp directory and I would like to emulate this for a single pdflatex run.

On 3 Nov 2023, at 19:11, Bastien DUMONT wrote:

> Doesn't it just work if you type `pandoc -o myfile.tex myfile.md && pdflatex myfile`? myfile.tex will include the paths to the image files as indicated in myfile.md
>
> Le Friday 03 November 2023 à 06:19:15PM, Oliver a écrit :
>> _Sorry, I have posted the follwoing before, but under the wrong subject, so here with the correct subject line_:
>>
>> Hi there
>>
>> I want to copy all the sources of a markdown file (like its images) into a temp folder and then generate its `.tex` file there and run `(pdf)latex`over it.
>>
>> Can Pandoc help me with copying the referenced sources? It clearly does the same when running `pdflatex` itself: The verbose output shows that it gathers all the images.
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>> (PS: The reason I don’t want to use Pandoc’s mechanism to run `pdflatex` directly is that Pando alwyas does _two_ latex runs, even though sometiems I want only one run the most.)
>>
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Re: How to copy all (image) source files of a markdown file into a temp folder

[Bastien DUMONT]

To do this, you can replace `pdflatex myfile` with `latexmk -pdf -auxdir=tmp myfile`. Then you can remove tmp/ if you are sure that you will not need it. You can even set `auxdir` to a directory under /tmp (e.g. /tmp/pdflatex).

Le Friday 03 November 2023 à 11:29:58PM, oliver a écrit :
> Well, I really like was Pandoc does when it runs pdflatex internally: Hiding all the auxiliary files from a TeX run in a temp directory and I would like to emulate this for a single pdflatex run.
> 
> On 3 Nov 2023, at 19:11, Bastien DUMONT wrote:
> 
> > Doesn't it just work if you type `pandoc -o myfile.tex myfile.md && pdflatex myfile`? myfile.tex will include the paths to the image files as indicated in myfile.md
> >
> > Le Friday 03 November 2023 à 06:19:15PM, Oliver a écrit :
> >> _Sorry, I have posted the follwoing before, but under the wrong subject, so here with the correct subject line_:
> >>
> >> Hi there
> >>
> >> I want to copy all the sources of a markdown file (like its images) into a temp folder and then generate its `.tex` file there and run `(pdf)latex`over it.
> >>
> >> Can Pandoc help me with copying the referenced sources? It clearly does the same when running `pdflatex` itself: The verbose output shows that it gathers all the images.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help.
> >>
> >> Oliver
> >>
> >> (PS: The reason I don’t want to use Pandoc’s mechanism to run `pdflatex` directly is that Pando alwyas does _two_ latex runs, even though sometiems I want only one run the most.)
> >>
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Re: Simple documents do multiple LaTeX runs

[Ulrike Fischer]

Am Thu, 26 Oct 2023 09:29:12 -0700 schrieb John MacFarlane:

> The reason we always do at least 2 runs is that 1 run won't give you PDF bookmarks.

If you use the bookmark package only one run is needed for
bookmarks.


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Re: Simple documents do multiple LaTeX runs

[John MacFarlane]

That's really interesting to know.  Currently we include bookmarks conditionally:

\IfFileExists{bookmark.sty}{\usepackage{bookmark}}{\usepackage{hyperref}}

But that was added 5 years ago. I think now we could switch to including it unconditionally. It's part of texlive-latex-base in debian.




> On Nov 3, 2023, at 8:49 AM, Ulrike Fischer <luatex-bMiYgyzgJ3Ab1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> Am Thu, 26 Oct 2023 09:29:12 -0700 schrieb John MacFarlane:
> 
>> The reason we always do at least 2 runs is that 1 run won't give you PDF bookmarks.
> 
> If you use the bookmark package only one run is needed for
> bookmarks.
> 
> 
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Re: Simple documents do multiple LaTeX runs

[John MacFarlane]

I've just pushed a change to the template that includes bookmark unconditionally and runs latex only once in producing pdf output (unless a table of contents is present, in which case we still need three runs).

> On Nov 3, 2023, at 10:01 AM, John MacFarlane <fiddlosopher-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> That's really interesting to know.  Currently we include bookmarks conditionally:
> 
> \IfFileExists{bookmark.sty}{\usepackage{bookmark}}{\usepackage{hyperref}}
> 
> But that was added 5 years ago. I think now we could switch to including it unconditionally. It's part of texlive-latex-base in debian.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2023, at 8:49 AM, Ulrike Fischer <luatex-bMiYgyzgJ3Ab1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Am Thu, 26 Oct 2023 09:29:12 -0700 schrieb John MacFarlane:
>> 
>>> The reason we always do at least 2 runs is that 1 run won't give you PDF bookmarks.
>> 
>> If you use the bookmark package only one run is needed for
>> bookmarks.
>> 
>> 
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>> http://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/
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Re: How to copy all (image) source files of a markdown file into a temp folder

[oliver]

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Thanks for this.

What I ended up doing is running pdflatex myself with 
`-output-directory` and then moving the pdf back to the source 
directory.

On 4 Nov 2023, at 2:19, Bastien DUMONT wrote:

> To do this, you can replace `pdflatex myfile` with `latexmk -pdf 
> -auxdir=tmp myfile`. Then you can remove tmp/ if you are sure that you 
> will not need it. You can even set `auxdir` to a directory under /tmp 
> (e.g. /tmp/pdflatex).
>
> Le Friday 03 November 2023 à 11:29:58PM, oliver a écrit :
>> Well, I really like was Pandoc does when it runs pdflatex internally: 
>> Hiding all the auxiliary files from a TeX run in a temp directory and 
>> I would like to emulate this for a single pdflatex run.
>>
>> On 3 Nov 2023, at 19:11, Bastien DUMONT wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't it just work if you type `pandoc -o myfile.tex myfile.md && 
>>> pdflatex myfile`? myfile.tex will include the paths to the image 
>>> files as indicated in myfile.md
>>>
>>> Le Friday 03 November 2023 à 06:19:15PM, Oliver a écrit :
>>>> _Sorry, I have posted the follwoing before, but under the wrong 
>>>> subject, so here with the correct subject line_:
>>>>
>>>> Hi there
>>>>
>>>> I want to copy all the sources of a markdown file (like its images) 
>>>> into a temp folder and then generate its `.tex` file there and run 
>>>> `(pdf)latex`over it.
>>>>
>>>> Can Pandoc help me with copying the referenced sources? It clearly 
>>>> does the same when running `pdflatex` itself: The verbose output 
>>>> shows that it gathers all the images.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>>
>>>> Oliver
>>>>
>>>> (PS: The reason I don’t want to use Pandoc’s mechanism to run 
>>>> `pdflatex` directly is that Pando alwyas does _two_ latex runs, 
>>>> even though sometiems I want only one run the most.)
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Re: Simple documents do multiple LaTeX runs

[oliver]

Cool! I will heck this out. This seems to be the best solution for really simple documents!

On 4 Nov 2023, at 4:43, John MacFarlane wrote:

> I've just pushed a change to the template that includes bookmark unconditionally and runs latex only once in producing pdf output (unless a table of contents is present, in which case we still need three runs).
>
>> On Nov 3, 2023, at 10:01 AM, John MacFarlane <fiddlosopher-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> That's really interesting to know.  Currently we include bookmarks conditionally:
>>
>> \IfFileExists{bookmark.sty}{\usepackage{bookmark}}{\usepackage{hyperref}}
>>
>> But that was added 5 years ago. I think now we could switch to including it unconditionally. It's part of texlive-latex-base in debian.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 3, 2023, at 8:49 AM, Ulrike Fischer <luatex-bMiYgyzgJ3Ab1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am Thu, 26 Oct 2023 09:29:12 -0700 schrieb John MacFarlane:
>>>
>>>> The reason we always do at least 2 runs is that 1 run won't give you PDF bookmarks.
>>>
>>> If you use the bookmark package only one run is needed for
>>> bookmarks.
>>>
>>>
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