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[Al Kossow]

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Can someone here ID the mystery person?

Embarrassingly, CHM has the person misidentified as well.


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Subject: 	[SIGCIS-Members] Need help identifying a photo
Date: 	Wed, 27 Jan 2016 16:46:45 +0000
From: 	Ceruzzi, Paul <CeruzziP@si.edu>
To: 	members at lists.sigcis.org <members at lists.sigcis.org>



There is a famous photo on Wikimedia commons, of what purports to be Ken
Thompson & Dennis Ritchie in front of a PDP-11, presumably working on
UNIX. The problem is that the seated person doesn’t look like either of
them. And he is clean-shaven. Could it be Bjarne Stroustrup? Does anyone
recall seeing T&R w/o facial hair? Any help in tracking this down would
be much appreciated! The photo has been reprinted in many places, and
I’d like to track this down before I inadvertently propagate an error.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ken_Thompson_(sitting)_and_Dennis_Ritchie_at_PDP-11_(2876612463).jpg

Paul E. Ceruzzi

Curator, Division of Space History

National Air and Space Museum

MRC 311, PO Box 37012

Smithsonian Institution

Washington, DC 20013-7012

www.ceruzzi.com <http://www.ceruzzi.com>

ceruzzip at si.edu <mailto:ceruzzip at si.edu>

202-633-2414



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[Ronald Natalie]

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I’m not sure it isn’t right.   The guy standing up is definitely Dennis.  The hairline looks right for Ken in “the day”.

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[Random832]

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016, at 12:11, Al Kossow wrote:
> 
> Can someone here ID the mystery person?
> 
> Embarrassingly, CHM has the person misidentified as well.

The same picture is at
https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/picture.html, with no suggestion
that it's anyone else.

[TUHS] Fwd: [SIGCIS-Members] Need help identifying a photo

[Al Kossow]

OK, the thing that threw me was KT without glasses.


On 1/27/16 9:30 AM, Random832 wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016, at 12:11, Al Kossow wrote:
>>
>> Can someone here ID the mystery person?
>>
>> Embarrassingly, CHM has the person misidentified as well.
>
> The same picture is at
> https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/picture.html, with no suggestion
> that it's anyone else.
>

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[John Cowan]

Al Kossow scripsit:

> OK, the thing that threw me was KT without glasses.

From Dorothy L. Sayers, _The Five Red Herrings_:

    The ticket-collector on the train was not helpful.
    [...] Certainly he had seen nobody remotely resembling the
    portrait of Gowan [a suspect with a very full black beard].
    Was there anybody at all like what Gowan would be if clean-shaven?
    Well, that was asking something, that was.  Had the Inspector
    any idea what a 'edge-'og would look like without its spikes?
    No, nor he didn't suppose nobody had, neither.  He was a
    ticket-collector, not a puzzle-picture expert. [...]

-- 
John Cowan          http://www.ccil.org/~cowan        cowan at ccil.org
Winter:  MIT, / Keio, INRIA, / Issue lots of Drafts.
So much more to understand! / Might simplicity return?
                (A "tanka", or extended haiku)

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[Ronald Natalie]

> On Jan 27, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Random832 <random832 at fastmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016, at 12:11, Al Kossow wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone here ID the mystery person?
>> 
>> Embarrassingly, CHM has the person misidentified as well.
> 
> The same picture is at
> https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/picture.html, with no suggestion
> that it's anyone else.

Especially since it seems to be Dennis whose authenticating it.

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[Marc Rochkind]

That's exactly what Ken looked like in the early 1970s when I first met him.

--Marc Rochkind

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Ronald Natalie <ron at ronnatalie.com> wrote:

>
> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Random832 <random832 at fastmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016, at 12:11, Al Kossow wrote:
> >>
> >> Can someone here ID the mystery person?
> >>
> >> Embarrassingly, CHM has the person misidentified as well.
> >
> > The same picture is at
> > https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/picture.html, with no suggestion
> > that it's anyone else.
>
> Especially since it seems to be Dennis whose authenticating it.
>
>
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[Clem Cole]

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Certainly looks like Ken without glasses just like first met him many years
ago,

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:

>
> Can someone here ID the mystery person?
>
> Embarrassingly, CHM has the person misidentified as well.
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:        [SIGCIS-Members] Need help identifying a photo
> Date:   Wed, 27 Jan 2016 16:46:45 +0000
> From:   Ceruzzi, Paul <CeruzziP at si.edu>
> To:     members at lists.sigcis.org <members at lists.sigcis.org>
>
>
>
> There is a famous photo on Wikimedia commons, of what purports to be Ken
> Thompson & Dennis Ritchie in front of a PDP-11, presumably working on
> UNIX. The problem is that the seated person doesn’t look like either of
> them. And he is clean-shaven. Could it be Bjarne Stroustrup? Does anyone
> recall seeing T&R w/o facial hair? Any help in tracking this down would
> be much appreciated! The photo has been reprinted in many places, and
> I’d like to track this down before I inadvertently propagate an error.
>
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ken_Thompson_(sitting)_and_Dennis_Ritchie_at_PDP-11_(2876612463).jpg
>
> Paul E. Ceruzzi
>
> Curator, Division of Space History
>
> National Air and Space Museum
>
> MRC 311, PO Box 37012
>
> Smithsonian Institution
>
> Washington, DC 20013-7012
>
> www.ceruzzi.com <http://www.ceruzzi.com>
>
> ceruzzip at si.edu <mailto:ceruzzip at si.edu>
>
> 202-633-2414
>
>
>
>
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[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Wednesday, 27 January 2016 at  9:11:45 -0800, Al Kossow wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 16:46:45 +0000, Paul Ceruzzi wrote:
>
>> There is a famous photo on Wikimedia commons, of what purports to be Ken
>> Thompson & Dennis Ritchie in front of a PDP-11, presumably working on
>> UNIX. The problem is that the seated person doesn?t look like either of
>> them. And he is clean-shaven. Could it be Bjarne Stroustrup?
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ken_Thompson_(sitting)_and_Dennis_Ritchie_at_PDP-11_(2876612463).jpg

Amusingly, the summary information for that link stated "Ken Thompson
(sitting)-&-Bjarne Stroustrup at PDP-11".  I've corrected it.

Greg
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[Doug McIlroy]

No question about it. That is Ken Thompson. I saw him just like that
dozens, perhaps hundreds, of times in that very seat. 

doug

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[Al Kossow]

Thanks for the replies, I've forwarded them to Paul.

On 1/27/16 10:17 AM, Doug McIlroy wrote:
> No question about it. That is Ken Thompson. I saw him just like that
> dozens, perhaps hundreds, of times in that very seat.
>
> doug