* [TUHS] New Unix Tree website
@ 2010-03-01 4:37 Warren Toomey
2010-03-01 4:57 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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0 siblings, 3 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-01 4:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
All, I've spent a bit of time re-writing my "Unix Tree" website, where
you can browse the source code trees and compare related files. The
file comparison now uses colour to show similar lines.
The initial version is at http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl
but I will probably move the URL at some point.
Have a look and see what you think. I would gladly accept suggestions on
better or more accurate descriptions for each of the releases, also checking
of dates and other information.
Cheers,
Warren
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread* [TUHS] New Unix Tree website 2010-03-01 4:37 [TUHS] New Unix Tree website Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-01 4:57 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey 2010-03-01 5:21 ` Warren Toomey 2010-03-01 5:32 ` John Cowan 2010-03-06 14:27 ` Cyrille Lefevre 2010-03-17 3:43 ` [TUHS] New Unix Tree website Warren Toomey 2 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2010-03-01 4:57 UTC (permalink / raw) On Monday, 1 March 2010 at 14:37:56 +1000, Warren Toomey wrote: > All, I've spent a bit of time re-writing my "Unix Tree" website, where > you can browse the source code trees and compare related files. The > file comparison now uses colour to show similar lines. Great stuff! > Have a look and see what you think. I would gladly accept > suggestions on better or more accurate descriptions for each of the > releases, also checking of dates and other information. I'm interested to see that you've put nsys in as the Fourth Edition, and that the timestamps are 1973-8-31. I've had this code on my machine for years (almost certainly from you), but I thought it was the Third Edition, and the time stamps are 1973-1-22. Have you found reason to change the timestamps and the version? Greg -- Finger grog at FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/attachments/20100301/19035d97/attachment-0001.sig> -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] New Unix Tree website 2010-03-01 4:57 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2010-03-01 5:21 ` Warren Toomey 2010-03-01 6:49 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey 2010-03-01 5:32 ` John Cowan 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-01 5:21 UTC (permalink / raw) On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:57:16PM +1100, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > I'm interested to see that you've put nsys in as the Fourth Edition, > and that the timestamps are 1973-8-31. I've had this code on my > machine for years (almost certainly from you), but I thought it was > the Third Edition, and the time stamps are 1973-1-22. Have you found > reason to change the timestamps and the version? It's a hard one to categorise, so here is my opinion: 4th Edition, released November 1973, was the first edition with a kernel written in C; 3rd Edition's kernel was still in assembly. The nsys kernel has timestamps up to August 31, 1973, so it's only a few months away from 4th Edition, and nsys is a kernel written in C. Therefore, I decided to categorise nsys under 4th Edition. Dennis and I had an ongoing discussion about the timestamps in the original nsys tape. He originally thought the files were dated 22 Jan, 1973. We worked out that there was a nuxi problem in interpreting the dates, and Jan 1973 was too early, as the C compiler at that time did not support structs. So the August 31, 1973 timestamp for the files seems to be correct. Anyway, I could either put it in V3 or V4, but either way it needs a long explanation as to why it is placed there. Cheers, Warren _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] New Unix Tree website 2010-03-01 5:21 ` Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-01 6:49 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2010-03-01 6:49 UTC (permalink / raw) On Monday, 1 March 2010 at 15:21:49 +1000, Warren Toomey wrote: > On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:57:16PM +1100, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> I'm interested to see that you've put nsys in as the Fourth Edition, >> and that the timestamps are 1973-8-31. I've had this code on my >> machine for years (almost certainly from you), but I thought it was >> the Third Edition, and the time stamps are 1973-1-22. Have you found >> reason to change the timestamps and the version? > > It's a hard one to categorise, so here is my opinion: > > ... Yes, I thought it might be something like that. > Anyway, I could either put it in V3 or V4, but either way it needs a > long explanation as to why it is placed there. It looks to me as if you've made the right choice, but it wouldn't harm to add your explanation to the web pages. Greg -- Finger grog at FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/attachments/20100301/0be44cc1/attachment-0001.sig> -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] New Unix Tree website 2010-03-01 4:57 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey 2010-03-01 5:21 ` Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-01 5:32 ` John Cowan 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: John Cowan @ 2010-03-01 5:32 UTC (permalink / raw) Greg 'groggy' Lehey scripsit: > I'm interested to see that you've put nsys in as the Fourth Edition, > and that the timestamps are 1973-8-31. I've had this code on my > machine for years (almost certainly from you), but I thought it was > the Third Edition, and the time stamps are 1973-1-22. Have you found > reason to change the timestamps and the version? As I've pointed out before, Editions are snapshots of the manual, and there's no particular reason to suppose that a given snapshot of the code corresponds exactly to any one of them. -- At the end of the Metatarsal Age, the dinosaurs John Cowan abruptly vanished. The theory that a single cowan at ccil.org catastrophic event may have been responsible http://www.ccil.org/~cowan has been strengthened by the recent discovery of a worldwide layer of whipped cream marking the Creosote-Tutelary boundary. --Science Made Stupid _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] New Unix Tree website 2010-03-01 4:37 [TUHS] New Unix Tree website Warren Toomey 2010-03-01 4:57 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2010-03-06 14:27 ` Cyrille Lefevre 2010-03-06 22:33 ` Warren Toomey 2010-03-07 2:14 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling Warren Toomey 2010-03-17 3:43 ` [TUHS] New Unix Tree website Warren Toomey 2 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Cyrille Lefevre @ 2010-03-06 14:27 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 968 bytes --] Warren Toomey a écrit : > All, I've spent a bit of time re-writing my "Unix Tree" website, where > you can browse the source code trees and compare related files. The > file comparison now uses colour to show similar lines. > > The initial version is at http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl > but I will probably move the URL at some point. > > Have a look and see what you think. I would gladly accept suggestions on > better or more accurate descriptions for each of the releases, also checking > of dates and other information. Hi, would it be possible to have a side-by-side colored diff instead of the scrollable one ? such as the one of cvsweb ? ex. : http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/bin/cat/cat.c.diff?r1=1.2&r2=1.46.12.1&f=h Regards, Cyrille Lefevre -- mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre-lists at laposte.net _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] New Unix Tree website 2010-03-06 14:27 ` Cyrille Lefevre @ 2010-03-06 22:33 ` Warren Toomey 2010-03-07 12:08 ` Cyrille Lefevre 2010-03-07 2:14 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling Warren Toomey 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-06 22:33 UTC (permalink / raw) On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:27:01PM +0100, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > would it be possible to have a side-by-side colored diff instead of the > scrollable one ? such as the one of cvsweb ? I'll see what I can do :) Warren _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] New Unix Tree website 2010-03-06 22:33 ` Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-07 12:08 ` Cyrille Lefevre 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Cyrille Lefevre @ 2010-03-07 12:08 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 329 bytes --] Warren Toomey a écrit : > On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:27:01PM +0100, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: >> would it be possible to have a side-by-side colored diff instead of the >> scrollable one ? such as the one of cvsweb ? > > I'll see what I can do :) > Warren thanks, see you. -- mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre-lists at laposte.net ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling 2010-03-06 14:27 ` Cyrille Lefevre 2010-03-06 22:33 ` Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-07 2:14 ` Warren Toomey 2010-03-07 2:30 ` Jason Stevens ` (5 more replies) 1 sibling, 6 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-07 2:14 UTC (permalink / raw) On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:27:01PM +0100, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > would it be possible to have a side-by-side colored diff instead of the > scrollable one ? I've added side scrolling now. Please have a look at it and see what you think. My HTML skills are limited, so if someone can suggest some better HTML code, I'd be happy to try it out. All the HTML is in template form, so it should be easy enough to try alternatives. The URL is now officially http://minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree I also want to add these other releases: 4BSD 4.1BSD which one? 4.2BSD 4.4BSD LSX Ultrix-32 which one? Venix? If there are any other ones you'd like to see in the tree, let me know. Now's the time to ask for any other donations to the Heritage Society. If you have any releases which are not yet in the Unix Archive, I'd love to know. I still seriously want to get a copy of SysVR4.2, which will go into the hidden vault to keep the bits safe until some day when they can be let out. Thanks, Warren _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling 2010-03-07 2:14 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-07 2:30 ` Jason Stevens 2010-03-07 5:15 ` Larry McVoy [not found] ` <20100307134709.GA2730@minnie.tuhs.org> 2010-03-07 5:14 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling Larry McVoy ` (4 subsequent siblings) 5 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Jason Stevens @ 2010-03-07 2:30 UTC (permalink / raw) I'd probably ask about that 4.3 Uwisc the wisconson one with the SUN NFS stuff... and maybe the soviet DEMOS stuff...? On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Warren Toomey <wkt at tuhs.org> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:27:01PM +0100, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > > would it be possible to have a side-by-side colored diff instead of the > > scrollable one ? > > I've added side scrolling now. Please have a look at it and see what you > think. > My HTML skills are limited, so if someone can suggest some better HTML > code, > I'd be happy to try it out. All the HTML is in template form, so it should > be > easy enough to try alternatives. > > The URL is now officially http://minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree > > I also want to add these other releases: > 4BSD > 4.1BSD which one? > 4.2BSD > 4.4BSD > LSX > Ultrix-32 which one? > Venix? > > If there are any other ones you'd like to see in the tree, let me know. > Now's the time to ask for any other donations to the Heritage Society. > If you have any releases which are not yet in the Unix Archive, I'd love > to know. I still seriously want to get a copy of SysVR4.2, which will go > into the hidden vault to keep the bits safe until some day when they can > be let out. > > Thanks, > Warren > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/attachments/20100306/16e8c986/attachment-0001.html> -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling 2010-03-07 2:30 ` Jason Stevens @ 2010-03-07 5:15 ` Larry McVoy [not found] ` <20100307134709.GA2730@minnie.tuhs.org> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Larry McVoy @ 2010-03-07 5:15 UTC (permalink / raw) On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 09:30:42PM -0500, Jason Stevens wrote: > I'd probably ask about that 4.3 Uwisc the wisconson one with the SUN NFS Heh. I was at Uwisc when that work was being done. That was a pretty cool time. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitkeeper.com _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
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* [TUHS] Unix Tree: demos [not found] ` <20100307134709.GA2730@minnie.tuhs.org> @ 2010-03-07 17:17 ` Jason Stevens [not found] ` <20100307220030.GA14913@minnie.tuhs.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Jason Stevens @ 2010-03-07 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw) I found some disk images online that say it's for the PDP-11 version... let me see what I can pull from them for you. The UWISC stuff is here: http://minnie.tuhs.org/Archive/4BSD/Distributions/thirdparty/UWisc4.3/ <http://minnie.tuhs.org/Archive/4BSD/Distributions/thirdparty/UWisc4.3/> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Warren Toomey <wkt at tuhs.org> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 09:30:42PM -0500, Jason Stevens wrote: > > I'd probably ask about that 4.3 Uwisc the wisconson one with the SUN NFS > > stuff... and maybe the soviet DEMOS stuff...? > > Do you have the demos stuff? I have a pile of files, but it's all a jumble. > If you have it, could you sit down a create a sensible tree of text-only > files (i.e. no binary files) which I could add to the Unix Tree? > > I'll see if I have 4.3 Uwisc here too. > > Thanks, > Warren > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/attachments/20100307/46418bc8/attachment.html> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
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* [TUHS] Unix Tree: demos [not found] ` <20100307220030.GA14913@minnie.tuhs.org> @ 2010-03-08 0:06 ` Jason Stevens [not found] ` <20100308002622.GA19400@minnie.tuhs.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Jason Stevens @ 2010-03-08 0:06 UTC (permalink / raw) I hate to say it but the demos stuff I found here http://pdp-11.ru/mybk/pdp11/DEMOS.RAR Seems to not include full source... I haven't gotten SIMH to boot the thing, nor some of the... "interesting" Russian PDP-11 emulators.. I ran strings through the disks, and I got some basic header files, oddly all in English, but no kernel or system source code, just some Fortran example.... I'll have to ask someone in Russia if they have any real solid leads on DEMOS... It seems that once the Soviet Union fell, everyone abandoned DEMOS for any of the BSD's... On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Warren Toomey <wkt at tuhs.org> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 12:17:26PM -0500, Jason Stevens wrote: > > I found some disk images online that say it's for the PDP-11 version... > let > > me see what I can pull from them for you. > > The UWISC stuff is here: > > http://minnie.tuhs.org/Archive/4BSD/Distributions/thirdparty/UWisc4.3/ > > Thanks Jason! > Warren > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/attachments/20100307/e54e4847/attachment.html> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
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* [TUHS] Unix Tree: demos [not found] ` <20100308002622.GA19400@minnie.tuhs.org> @ 2010-03-08 0:34 ` Jason Stevens 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Jason Stevens @ 2010-03-08 0:34 UTC (permalink / raw) Cool just downloaded it.... seems whoever put it together really liked gzip... ;) On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Warren Toomey <wkt at tuhs.org> wrote: > http://minnie.tuhs.org/Z/demos.tar.gz > > Let me know when you got it. > Warren > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/attachments/20100307/84e30957/attachment.html> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling 2010-03-07 2:14 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling Warren Toomey 2010-03-07 2:30 ` Jason Stevens @ 2010-03-07 5:14 ` Larry McVoy 2010-03-07 6:02 ` [TUHS] More versions in the tree (was: Unix Tree: side scrolling) Greg 'groggy' Lehey 2010-03-08 1:48 ` [TUHS] hyphen.c, was Unix Tree Warren Toomey ` (3 subsequent siblings) 5 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Larry McVoy @ 2010-03-07 5:14 UTC (permalink / raw) > I also want to add these other releases: > 4BSD > 4.1BSD which one? 4.1c was the one that worked, right? > 4.2BSD No 4.3? That was a nice one. > 4.4BSD > LSX > Ultrix-32 which one? > Venix? > > If there are any other ones you'd like to see in the tree, let me know. > Now's the time to ask for any other donations to the Heritage Society. > If you have any releases which are not yet in the Unix Archive, I'd love > to know. I still seriously want to get a copy of SysVR4.2, which will go SysVR4.2 was never my favorite. System V in general was a poor excuse for a Unix release. We still have SCO running here and it's pretty close to Sys V and, well, yuck. And I speak as the guy who added TCP/IP networking to SCO. If I had any fondness for it I'd be showing it. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitkeeper.com _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] More versions in the tree (was: Unix Tree: side scrolling) 2010-03-07 5:14 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling Larry McVoy @ 2010-03-07 6:02 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey 2010-03-07 8:50 ` [TUHS] First TCP/IP implementation (was: Re: More versions in the tree (was: Unix Tree: side scrolling)) Jochen Kunz 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2010-03-07 6:02 UTC (permalink / raw) On Saturday, 6 March 2010 at 21:14:08 -0800, Larry McVoy wrote: >> I also want to add these other releases: >> 4BSD >> 4.1BSD which one? > > 4.1c was the one that worked, right? Well, it's interesting as the first operating system with support for TCP/IP, so I'd vote for that too. >> I still seriously want to get a copy of SysVR4.2, which will go ... > > SysVR4.2 was never my favorite. System V in general was a poor > excuse for a Unix release. Heh. All the more reason to have a representative of the branch, so that people can see for themselves. > We still have SCO running here and it's pretty close to Sys V Possibly it would look that way revisited now. It certainly didn't to us 20 years ago. We were running, well, System V.2, and we wanted a UNIX for our PCs. We ended up with Interactive, which was a whole lot better than SCO. Greg -- Finger grog at FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/attachments/20100307/bc81c6a9/attachment.sig> -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] First TCP/IP implementation (was: Re: More versions in the tree (was: Unix Tree: side scrolling)) 2010-03-07 6:02 ` [TUHS] More versions in the tree (was: Unix Tree: side scrolling) Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2010-03-07 8:50 ` Jochen Kunz 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Jochen Kunz @ 2010-03-07 8:50 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 529 bytes --] On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:02:16 +1100 Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog at lemis.com> wrote: > > 4.1c was the one that worked, right? > Well, it's interesting as the first operating system with support for > TCP/IP, so I'd vote for that too. Wasn't the first TCP/IP implementation done at BBN on a PDP-10 running TOPS-10? -- tschüß, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/ _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] hyphen.c, was Unix Tree 2010-03-07 2:14 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling Warren Toomey 2010-03-07 2:30 ` Jason Stevens 2010-03-07 5:14 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling Larry McVoy @ 2010-03-08 1:48 ` Warren Toomey 2010-03-08 4:25 ` Derek Peschel 2010-03-08 5:59 ` Ian King 2010-03-09 1:37 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: 4BSDs now in Warren Toomey ` (2 subsequent siblings) 5 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-08 1:48 UTC (permalink / raw) As an interesting side-note, last year when we were trying to recover the Second Edition commands source code from the s1-bits.gz DECtape image, there was a leftover file which I labelled unknown.c. The Unix tree now shows that V2 unknown.c is actually hyphen.c, which reappears in System III: http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V2/cmd/unknown.c Now, does anybody know what happened to hyphen.c between mid-1972 and mid-1980? There is a hyphen(1) V3 manual and a hyphen(6) V4 manual. Could it have gone off towards PWB or CB UNIX or UNIX/TS? I wish we could get copies of CB UNIX or UNIX/TS or MERT :-S Cheers, Warren _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] hyphen.c, was Unix Tree 2010-03-08 1:48 ` [TUHS] hyphen.c, was Unix Tree Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-08 4:25 ` Derek Peschel 2010-03-08 5:59 ` Ian King 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Derek Peschel @ 2010-03-08 4:25 UTC (permalink / raw) On Mar 7, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Warren Toomey wrote: > I wish we could get copies of CB UNIX or UNIX/TS or MERT :-S Absolutely! Even MERT documentation would be interesting. The other two systems you mention are probably interesting too, except that I've never even heard about them so I can't say. For the record, I've posted a couple of times to the list asking various esoteric questions about virtualization. That's why I'm interested in MERT in particular. -- Derek ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] hyphen.c, was Unix Tree 2010-03-08 1:48 ` [TUHS] hyphen.c, was Unix Tree Warren Toomey 2010-03-08 4:25 ` Derek Peschel @ 2010-03-08 5:59 ` Ian King 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Ian King @ 2010-03-08 5:59 UTC (permalink / raw) Hey Warren, you know what they say: wish in one hand, do something else in the other.... :-) Speaking of wishing: any news from Mr. Ritchie on PDP-7 UNIX fragments? We're getting closer to having our -7 running, likely before summer here in the Other Hemisphere. BTW, do you know anything of the whereabouts of LISP for the -7? I know it existed, as a descendant of the PDP-1 interpreter, but I have had no luck so far finding it. I may just write one of my own, premised on the functionality of the -1 version, but for history's sake I'd love to find a paper tape (or image thereof) of the original -7 implementation. Wishing in my one hand.... Cheers -- Ian On Mar 7, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Warren Toomey wrote: > As an interesting side-note, last year when we were trying to recover > the Second Edition commands source code from the s1-bits.gz DECtape > image, > there was a leftover file which I labelled unknown.c. > > The Unix tree now shows that V2 unknown.c is actually hyphen.c, which > reappears in System III: > > http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V2/cmd/unknown.c > > Now, does anybody know what happened to hyphen.c between mid-1972 and > mid-1980? There is a hyphen(1) V3 manual and a hyphen(6) V4 manual. > > Could it have gone off towards PWB or CB UNIX or UNIX/TS? > > I wish we could get copies of CB UNIX or UNIX/TS or MERT :-S > > Cheers, > Warren > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] Unix Tree: 4BSDs now in 2010-03-07 2:14 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling Warren Toomey ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2010-03-08 1:48 ` [TUHS] hyphen.c, was Unix Tree Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-09 1:37 ` Warren Toomey 2010-03-09 9:38 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling Cyrille Lefevre 2010-03-09 13:22 ` Michael Kerpan 5 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-09 1:37 UTC (permalink / raw) On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 12:14:07PM +1000, Warren Toomey wrote: > I also want to add these other releases: > 4BSD > 4.1BSD which one? > 4.2BSD > 4.4BSD > LSX A fair sampling of the 4BSDs and LSX are now in the Unix Tree. I haven't put 4.3-Tahoe in, but 4.3 and 4.3-Reno are in. What do you think, is -Tahoe different enough to be a useful addition? Thanks, Warren _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling 2010-03-07 2:14 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling Warren Toomey ` (3 preceding siblings ...) 2010-03-09 1:37 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: 4BSDs now in Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-09 9:38 ` Cyrille Lefevre 2010-03-09 13:22 ` Michael Kerpan 5 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Cyrille Lefevre @ 2010-03-09 9:38 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 862 bytes --] Warren Toomey a écrit : > If there are any other ones you'd like to see in the tree, let me know. > Now's the time to ask for any other donations to the Heritage Society. > If you have any releases which are not yet in the Unix Archive, I'd love > to know. I still seriously want to get a copy of SysVR4.2, which will go > into the hidden vault to keep the bits safe until some day when they can > be let out. Hi, things I have : irix 6.5.5 osf1 1.0.0 solaris 2.6 sunos 4.1.3 sunos 4.1.4 ultrix 2.0 ultrix 4.2 ultrix 4.3 usl 4.2 aka SVR4.2 most in source and binary form. things I want : hp-ux 9.x, 10.x and 11.x aix 4.3 and 5.2 deal :-) Regards, Cyrille Lefevre -- mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre-lists at laposte.net _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling 2010-03-07 2:14 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling Warren Toomey ` (4 preceding siblings ...) 2010-03-09 9:38 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: side scrolling Cyrille Lefevre @ 2010-03-09 13:22 ` Michael Kerpan 2010-03-09 21:05 ` [TUHS] Unix Tree: what else? Warren Toomey 5 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Michael Kerpan @ 2010-03-09 13:22 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1435 bytes --] On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Warren Toomey <wkt at tuhs.org> wrote: > I've added side scrolling now. Please have a look at it and see what you think. > My HTML skills are limited, so if someone can suggest some better HTML code, > I'd be happy to try it out. All the HTML is in template form, so it should be > easy enough to try alternatives. > > The URL is now officially http://minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree > > I also want to add these other releases: > 4BSD > 4.1BSD which one? > 4.2BSD > 4.4BSD > LSX > Ultrix-32 which one? > Venix? > > If there are any other ones you'd like to see in the tree, let me know. > Now's the time to ask for any other donations to the Heritage Society. > If you have any releases which are not yet in the Unix Archive, I'd love > to know. I still seriously want to get a copy of SysVR4.2, which will go > into the hidden vault to keep the bits safe until some day when they can > be let out. How about addid a couple of modern FOSS Unix descendants like FreeBSD and NetBSD and OpenSolaris. It would be great to see just how much V7 code still lives in these newer systems. Anyway, I don't have anything new to offer except for my words of gratitude. The source comparison feature is just plain awesome. It makes me feel like one of those scientists who figures out family trees by doing DNA comparisons ;) Mike ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] Unix Tree: what else? 2010-03-09 13:22 ` Michael Kerpan @ 2010-03-09 21:05 ` Warren Toomey 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-09 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 08:22:01AM -0500, Michael Kerpan wrote: > How about addid a couple of modern FOSS Unix descendants like FreeBSD > and NetBSD and OpenSolaris. It would be great to see just how much V7 > code still lives in these newer systems. Good idea. I might do a subset of OpenSolaris and FreeBSD: they are just way too big :) Maybe also Minix and an early Linux. Thanks, Warren _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] New Unix Tree website 2010-03-01 4:37 [TUHS] New Unix Tree website Warren Toomey 2010-03-01 4:57 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey 2010-03-06 14:27 ` Cyrille Lefevre @ 2010-03-17 3:43 ` Warren Toomey 2010-03-17 3:56 ` Larry McVoy 2 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-17 3:43 UTC (permalink / raw) I've added a better assembly parser, and a manpage/textfile parser to the Unix Tree, and I've also imported the plaintext from the 1st Edition manuals which Dennis Ritchie scanned in. Some interesting results: There are still some vestiges of the 1st Edition manuals in 4.4BSD: http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V1/man/manintro.txt http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V1/man/man1/ed.1 http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V1/man/man1/ld.1 among others. Cheers, Warren _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] New Unix Tree website 2010-03-17 3:43 ` [TUHS] New Unix Tree website Warren Toomey @ 2010-03-17 3:56 ` Larry McVoy 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Larry McVoy @ 2010-03-17 3:56 UTC (permalink / raw) Doesn't suprise me at all. I looked at the code when the BSD fuss was going on and bmap() was still the same. After all those years and all that fuss. Jolitz was right. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:43:11PM +1000, Warren Toomey wrote: > I've added a better assembly parser, and a manpage/textfile parser to the > Unix Tree, and I've also imported the plaintext from the 1st Edition manuals > which Dennis Ritchie scanned in. Some interesting results: > > There are still some vestiges of the 1st Edition manuals in 4.4BSD: > > http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V1/man/manintro.txt > http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V1/man/man1/ed.1 > http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V1/man/man1/ld.1 > > among others. > > Cheers, > Warren > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitkeeper.com _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
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