[TUHS] NetBSD turns 30

[TUHS] NetBSD turns 30

[Jan Schaumann via TUHS]

Hello,

30 years ago today on March 21st, 1993 at around
09:45:37 UTC, NetBSD was born!

I believe this makes NetBSD the oldest,
still-maintained and actively developed, free and open
source descendant of the Berkeley Software
Distribution (BSD), a true genetic Unix (albeit not
small-caps UNIX nor UNIX(tm)).

If you want to see what the source tree looked like
back then:

cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.netbsd.org:/cvsroot co -D "1993-03-21 09:45:37 GMT" src

Or browse the tree at that time:
https://www.netbsd.org/~jschauma/src-1993-03-21/

Unlike me, many on this list were around at the time
and place.  Would love to hear some origin stories...

-Jan

[TUHS] Re: NetBSD turns 30

[Warner Losh]

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On Tue, Mar 21, 2023, 4:39 PM Jan Schaumann via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> 30 years ago today on March 21st, 1993 at around
> 09:45:37 UTC, NetBSD was born!
>
> I believe this makes NetBSD the oldest,
> still-maintained and actively developed, free and open
> source descendant of the Berkeley Software
> Distribution (BSD), a true genetic Unix (albeit not
> small-caps UNIX nor UNIX(tm)).
>


2.11BSD is older and continuous... but admittedly much less so than NetBSD.
It was released in 1991 and has had almost 500 patches, the latest in the
last year. It traces back to 2.9BSD released in 1983. But it still is
basically only on the pdp-11...

Warner

If you want to see what the source tree looked like
> back then:
>
> cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.netbsd.org:/cvsroot co -D "1993-03-21 09:45:37
> GMT" src
>
> Or browse the tree at that time:
> https://www.netbsd.org/~jschauma/src-1993-03-21/
>
> Unlike me, many on this list were around at the time
> and place.  Would love to hear some origin stories...
>
> -Jan
>

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[TUHS] NetBSD turns 30

[Andy Kosela]

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On Tuesday, March 21, 2023, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023, 4:39 PM Jan Schaumann via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> 30 years ago today on March 21st, 1993 at around
>> 09:45:37 UTC, NetBSD was born!
>>
>> I believe this makes NetBSD the oldest,
>> still-maintained and actively developed, free and open
>> source descendant of the Berkeley Software
>> Distribution (BSD), a true genetic Unix (albeit not
>> small-caps UNIX nor UNIX(tm)).
>>
>
>
Does anybody know what Chris Demetriou is doing these days? It appears like
he is not that much active in the open source community anymore. Basically
it was him, Theo and Charles Hannum that started NetBSD.

It was a great era. The community at large was definitely much more
enthusiastic and idealistic and computers were much more fun to play with
-- talking about early 386 PCs and Amigas.

NetBSD, FreeBSD and Linux -- all three great projects that still impact
modern computing environments!

--Andy

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[TUHS] Re: NetBSD turns 30

[Dan Cross]

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 1:57 PM Andy Kosela <akosela@andykosela.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> Does anybody know what Chris Demetriou is doing these days? It appears like he is not that much active in the open source community anymore.

He was at Google at least a couple of years ago, when I left. I can't
recall what he was working on; something to do with infrastructure.

> Basically it was him, Theo and Charles Hannum that started NetBSD.
>
> It was a great era. The community at large was definitely much more enthusiastic and idealistic and computers were much more fun to play with -- talking about early 386 PCs and Amigas.
>
> NetBSD, FreeBSD and Linux -- all three great projects that still impact modern computing environments!

In many ways, it was more exciting back then.  In many ways, it's more
exciting now. Computers are pervasive and so much more powerful these
days, but on the other hand, it's so much harder to get things done.

        - Dan C.

[TUHS] Re: NetBSD turns 30

[James Frew]

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Quote Of The Day, for sure...

/Frew

On 2023-03-21 11:27, Dan Cross wrote:
> Computers are pervasive and so much more powerful these days, but on 
> the other hand, it's so much harder to get things done.

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[TUHS] Re: NetBSD turns 30

[Bakul Shah]

On Mar 21, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> In many ways, it was more exciting back then.  In many ways, it's more
> exciting now. Computers are pervasive and so much more powerful these
> days, but on the other hand, it's so much harder to get things done.

"all alone, one week, one week, one week and we had Unix"

[TUHS] Re: NetBSD turns 30

[Jon Forrest]

On 3/21/2023 10:56 AM, Andy Kosela wrote:

> Basically it was him, Theo and Charles Hannum that started NetBSD.

I think Adam Glass was also one of the founders.

Adam and Chris were undergrads in the CS department at UC Berkeley
working in the Postgres group at the time.

Jon Forrest

[TUHS] Re: NetBSD turns 30

[Mehdi Sadeghi via TUHS]

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[TUHS] Re: NetBSD turns 30

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Mehdi Sadeghi wrote in
 <75067767-dead-2b17-9314-ffe03dae318f@mehdix.org>:
 |According to the NetBSD guide one should run export CVS_RSH="ssh" before \
 |running the command below, it would not respond otherwise, at least \
 |not on my Arch Linux machine.

I would expect ArchLinux people to use their git and search-foo to
land and use the github mirror via https, practically.
(It is now stable i think.  (Conversion problems in the past.))

--steffen
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|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
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