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From: Mary Ann Horton Gmail <mah@mhorton.net>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Historical Usenet maps
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 20:21:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c904e45-4ce7-5c74-8b5e-7551c2ec8a9d@mhorton.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <03f3d34a-bc7f-4b26-559e-101ccd614ef3@mhorton.net>

Thanks to everyone who came to the celebration in Seattle!

If you missed it and want your own copy of historical (old) Usenet maps, 
you can download it now.

I have updated the PDF online to include everything that was in the 
display copy. The full copy is at http://www.stargatemuseum.org/maps/ .  
ThisPDF  is intended to be printed, because most of the pages are in 
landscape.

     Mary Ann

On 7/9/19 9:28 AM, Mary Ann Horton Gmail wrote:
> I've succeeded in copying the files from floppy. Thanks to everyone 
> for the great suggestions!
>
> I used a USB-to-serial adapter, combined with PuTTY and the usual 
> serial tools (DB-9 to DB-25 adapter, gender changer, and null modem). 
> I even dug out my AT&T PC 6300 MS DOS manual for details on writing 
> BAT files (although the main script had a bad habit of exiting after 
> the first file got copied). I wound up calling a 3 line script 
> separately for each file to be copied over, and using PuTTY's 
> scrolling history to save the files.
>
> I've collected these and other old Usenet maps here:
>
> http://www.stargatemuseum.org/maps/
>
> I hope to display these (and hand out a few copies!) in Seattle this 
> week.
>
> Does anyone have anything put together that can easily do the "leroy" 
> thing described here:
>
> http://www.stargatemuseum.org/maps/032383.GRF.txt
>
> and produce the graphical map it contains?
>
>     Mary Ann
>
> On 6/23/19 4:10 PM, Mary Ann Horton Gmail wrote:
>> Hunting around through my ancient stuff today, I ran across a 5.25" 
>> floppy drive labeled as having old Usenet maps. These may have 
>> historical interest.
>>
>> First off, I don't recognize the handwriting on the disk. It's not 
>> mine. Does anyone recognize it? (pic attached)
>>
>> I dug out my AT&T 6300 (XT clone) from the garage and booted it up. 
>> The floppy reads just fine. It has files with .MAP extension, which 
>> are ASCII Usenet maps from 1980 to 1984, and some .BBM files which 
>> are ASCII Usenet backbone maps up to 1987.
>>
>> There is also a file whose extension is .GRF from 1983 which claims 
>> to be a graphical Usenet map.  Does anyone have any idea what GRF is 
>> or what this map might be? I recall Brian Reid having a plotter-based 
>> Usenet geographic map in 84 or 85.
>>
>> I'd like to copy these files off for posterity. They read on DOS just 
>> fine. Is there a current best practice for copying off files? I would 
>> have guessed I'd need a to use the serial port, but my old PC has DOS 
>> 2.11 (not much serial copying software on it) and I don't have 
>> anything live with a serial port anymore. And it might not help with 
>> the GRF file.
>>
>> I took some photos of the screen with the earliest maps (the ones 
>> that fit on one screen.) So it's an option to type things in, at 
>> least for the early ASCII ones.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>     Mary Ann
>>
>>

      parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-15  3:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-23 23:10 [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for " Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-06-23 23:52 ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24  0:02   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-06-24  0:35     ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-06-24  0:53       ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24  0:56         ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-24  1:12           ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24  1:31             ` William Pechter
2019-06-24  1:51               ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24  1:40         ` Bakul Shah
2019-06-24  3:20           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-06-24  0:50     ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24 21:07     ` Michael Kjörling
2019-06-24 21:30       ` Steve Nickolas
2019-06-24 21:59         ` Gregg Levine
2019-06-23 23:57 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-06-24  0:40   ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-06-24  1:37     ` William Pechter
2019-06-24  3:17     ` Jason Stevens
2019-06-24  1:57   ` Steve Nickolas
2019-06-24  2:09     ` pechter
2019-06-24  0:03 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-24  0:19 ` Seth Morabito
2019-06-24  0:33 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-24  1:58   ` Steve Nickolas
2019-06-25  3:54 ` Jonathan Gevaryahu
2019-06-25 11:21   ` ckeck
2019-07-09 16:28 ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 16:53   ` KatolaZ
2019-07-09 17:12   ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 17:25     ` Seth Morabito
2019-07-09 17:34       ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 19:19         ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 19:41           ` Richard Salz
2019-07-09 20:09           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 20:58             ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 20:54           ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 21:30             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 21:35               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 21:37             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 21:46               ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 22:02                 ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 23:23                   ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-10  0:06                     ` Dan Cross
2019-07-10  0:26                       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-10  0:38                         ` Dan Cross
2019-07-10  0:49                           ` Larry McVoy
2019-07-10  0:57                             ` Clem Cole
2019-07-10  1:26                               ` [TUHS] V0 B Compiler Warren Toomey
2019-07-10  1:29                                 ` Clem Cole
2019-07-10  1:32                                   ` [TUHS] Plot 10 Sources Clem Cole
2019-07-10  2:51                                     ` Charles Anthony
2019-07-10  3:00                                       ` Charles Anthony
2019-07-10  3:01                                       ` Clem Cole
2019-07-10 12:51                                     ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
2019-07-10 14:34                                       ` Clem cole
2019-07-10  1:02                             ` [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps Arthur Krewat
2019-07-10  1:19                               ` Larry McVoy
2019-07-10  1:34                                 ` Dave Horsfall
2019-07-10  0:28                       ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 22:01               ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 22:44                 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 23:14                   ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-10  0:24                     ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-10  1:13                       ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 17:33     ` Clem Cole
2019-07-15  3:21   ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail [this message]

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