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From: tfb@tfeb.org (Tim Bradshaw)
Subject: [TUHS] basic tools / Universal Unix
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 13:25:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8FE0F4AC-DDAE-482B-8148-CB9438F57549@tfeb.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.21.1711011419570.66513@aneurin.horsfall.org>

> On 1 Nov 2017, at 03:23, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote:
> 
> A previous boss insisted that all his support staff learn ED, because one day it might be the only editor available on a trashed box (you can't mount /usr etc).

That's happened to me relatively recently (I know ed just well enough to get machines out of that state).

Of course nowadays you can't rely on the thing called 'ed' being 'ed': I know someone who lives in ed but can't run it on some machines because it relies on something in /var somewhere being writable, which it isn't.  I've always thought that the *whole point* of ed was that it did not rely on vast tracts of the system actually being there, still less beng functional.  This person now has to edit things with cat (which, in some future release, will probably start assuming that there's a configured ipv6 interface or something, because why would that ever not be true?).

--tim


  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-01 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-30 14:16 Noel Chiappa
2017-10-30 14:40 ` Clem Cole
2017-10-30 15:23 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-10-30 20:56 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-10-31 10:50   ` Ronald Natalie
2017-11-01  3:23     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-01 13:25       ` Tim Bradshaw [this message]
2017-11-16  1:17         ` Dario Niedermann
2017-11-15  1:25       ` Nemo
2017-11-15  2:10         ` Will Senn
2017-11-15  2:16           ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-15  2:37             ` Warner Losh
2017-11-15  3:07               ` Will Senn
2017-11-15 16:13                 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-15 16:23                   ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-15 16:48                     ` Clem Cole
2017-11-15 18:13                       ` Bakul Shah
2017-11-15 19:01                         ` Clem Cole
2017-11-15 19:52                           ` [TUHS] TECO was: " Arthur Krewat
2017-11-15 20:19                             ` Clem Cole
2017-11-15 20:25                               ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-15 22:18                                 ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-15 22:42                                   ` [TUHS] :nohlsearch in vim Chris Torek
2017-11-16  2:44                                     ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-16  4:34                                   ` [TUHS] TECO was: Re: basic tools / Universal Unix Dave Horsfall
2017-11-16  4:36                                     ` Jim Capp
2017-11-16  8:42                                     ` Pete Turnbull
2017-11-18 14:39                                       ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-16  9:19                                     ` arnold
2017-11-16 21:59                                     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-16 22:58                                       ` Andy Kosela
2017-11-17  2:17                                         ` Steve Johnson
2017-11-17  2:38                                           ` George Michaelson
2017-11-17  3:56                                             ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-11-17  4:07                                               ` Steve Nickolas
2017-11-17  8:44                                             ` Michael Kjörling
2017-11-17  3:50                                         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-11-17  6:51                                           ` Andy Kosela
2017-11-17  1:18                                     ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-11-16  0:29                                 ` Grant Taylor
2017-11-16  0:35                                   ` Grant Taylor
2017-11-16  0:52                                     ` Warner Losh
2017-11-16  9:29                             ` [TUHS] TECO was: " Mutiny 
2017-11-16 14:55                               ` Clem Cole
2017-11-16 21:26                                 ` Random832
2017-11-17  9:08                                   ` Mutiny 
2017-11-16 20:35                               ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-16 21:00                                 ` Clem Cole
2017-11-17  6:28                               ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-11-15  9:58               ` [TUHS] " Andy Kosela
2017-11-15 11:42           ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-01 14:05     ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-01 16:42       ` arnold
2017-11-01 17:17         ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-01 18:03           ` Dan Cross
2017-11-01 18:06           ` arnold
2017-11-01 20:16             ` Bakul Shah
2017-11-01 20:37               ` arnold
2017-11-01 21:04                 ` Bakul Shah
2017-11-02  0:05                 ` Chet Ramey
2017-11-02  0:10             ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-10-31 16:43   ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-02 17:48   ` Paul Winalski
2017-10-30 21:50 ` Charles Anthony
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-11-15 14:06 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-15 17:12 ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-15 17:47   ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-15 18:40   ` Bakul Shah
2017-11-15 19:58     ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-01 22:51 Norman Wilson
2017-11-01 23:09 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-11-02 20:29 ` Grant Taylor
2017-10-31 19:23 Norman Wilson
2017-10-30 21:40 Noel Chiappa
2017-10-18 23:03 Doug McIlroy
2017-10-19  3:53 ` Random832
2017-10-19 14:33   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-19 14:41     ` Random832
2017-10-19 21:03       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-20 19:54       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-19 14:32 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-16 17:52 Clem Cole
2017-10-16 18:54 ` Dan Cross
2017-10-17 13:51   ` Tony Finch
2017-10-17 20:22     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-16 20:05 ` Bakul Shah
2017-10-30  0:55   ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-10-30  2:54     ` Bakul Shah
2017-10-30 14:05       ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-10-16 20:39 ` Andy Kosela

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