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From: akosela@andykosela.com (Andy Kosela)
Subject: [TUHS] basic tools / Universal Unix
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:58:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALMnNGjTRT79C2LH__T5eHjm3n6VOJWtjg=FvWWROsV8h3diOQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfr4a_MErZcasrpnC6TJMk1otUgNX9MDwn8snjWwYb45zQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wednesday, November 15, 2017, Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:

> It took me a while to realize that ed(1) is what TECO should have been....
> Too much TECO trauma scared me away for far too long.... But maybe it was
> all the TECO macros I wrote to make the BH100 terminal useful as an editor
> in full screen mode....
>
>
TECO (and therefore Emacs) and ed(1) represent two completely opposite
views on software development and IT in general.  The one is
fanatical about minimalism and 'less is more' approach, while the other
stands for 'more is more'.

That is why MIT and Bell Labs represented two very different cultures.  In
the history of computing I have not found any other group of computer
scientists that so deeply emphasized minimalism and 'less is more' approach.

This group produced the original UNIX and C, Plan 9, and Go programming
language.  Everything else in the Unix camp including BSD, Linux or GNU was
never about minimalism as its main goals, although one can argue that in
the early years Linux kernel was small and minimal.

--Andy
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Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-30 14:16 Noel Chiappa
2017-10-30 14:40 ` Clem Cole
2017-10-30 15:23 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-10-30 20:56 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-10-31 10:50   ` Ronald Natalie
2017-11-01  3:23     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-01 13:25       ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-11-16  1:17         ` Dario Niedermann
2017-11-15  1:25       ` Nemo
2017-11-15  2:10         ` Will Senn
2017-11-15  2:16           ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-15  2:37             ` Warner Losh
2017-11-15  3:07               ` Will Senn
2017-11-15 16:13                 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-15 16:23                   ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-15 16:48                     ` Clem Cole
2017-11-15 18:13                       ` Bakul Shah
2017-11-15 19:01                         ` Clem Cole
2017-11-15 19:52                           ` [TUHS] TECO was: " Arthur Krewat
2017-11-15 20:19                             ` Clem Cole
2017-11-15 20:25                               ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-15 22:18                                 ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-15 22:42                                   ` [TUHS] :nohlsearch in vim Chris Torek
2017-11-16  2:44                                     ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-16  4:34                                   ` [TUHS] TECO was: Re: basic tools / Universal Unix Dave Horsfall
2017-11-16  4:36                                     ` Jim Capp
2017-11-16  8:42                                     ` Pete Turnbull
2017-11-18 14:39                                       ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-16  9:19                                     ` arnold
2017-11-16 21:59                                     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-16 22:58                                       ` Andy Kosela
2017-11-17  2:17                                         ` Steve Johnson
2017-11-17  2:38                                           ` George Michaelson
2017-11-17  3:56                                             ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-11-17  4:07                                               ` Steve Nickolas
2017-11-17  8:44                                             ` Michael Kjörling
2017-11-17  3:50                                         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-11-17  6:51                                           ` Andy Kosela
2017-11-17  1:18                                     ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-11-16  0:29                                 ` Grant Taylor
2017-11-16  0:35                                   ` Grant Taylor
2017-11-16  0:52                                     ` Warner Losh
2017-11-16  9:29                             ` [TUHS] TECO was: " Mutiny 
2017-11-16 14:55                               ` Clem Cole
2017-11-16 21:26                                 ` Random832
2017-11-17  9:08                                   ` Mutiny 
2017-11-16 20:35                               ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-16 21:00                                 ` Clem Cole
2017-11-17  6:28                               ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-11-15  9:58               ` Andy Kosela [this message]
2017-11-15 11:42           ` [TUHS] " Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-01 14:05     ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-01 16:42       ` arnold
2017-11-01 17:17         ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-01 18:03           ` Dan Cross
2017-11-01 18:06           ` arnold
2017-11-01 20:16             ` Bakul Shah
2017-11-01 20:37               ` arnold
2017-11-01 21:04                 ` Bakul Shah
2017-11-02  0:05                 ` Chet Ramey
2017-11-02  0:10             ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-10-31 16:43   ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-02 17:48   ` Paul Winalski
2017-10-30 21:50 ` Charles Anthony
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-11-15 14:06 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-15 17:12 ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-15 17:47   ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-15 18:40   ` Bakul Shah
2017-11-15 19:58     ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-01 22:51 Norman Wilson
2017-11-01 23:09 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-11-02 20:29 ` Grant Taylor
2017-10-31 19:23 Norman Wilson
2017-10-30 21:40 Noel Chiappa
2017-10-18 23:03 Doug McIlroy
2017-10-19  3:53 ` Random832
2017-10-19 14:33   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-19 14:41     ` Random832
2017-10-19 21:03       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-20 19:54       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-19 14:32 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-16 17:52 Clem Cole
2017-10-16 18:54 ` Dan Cross
2017-10-17 13:51   ` Tony Finch
2017-10-17 20:22     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-16 20:05 ` Bakul Shah
2017-10-30  0:55   ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-10-30  2:54     ` Bakul Shah
2017-10-30 14:05       ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-10-16 20:39 ` Andy Kosela

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